Re: [ff3d-users] Inner wall definitions

[Emilio Melero García]

Hello Stephane,

Ok, i have used the smesh instruction to generate a surface mesh showing the effective boundary of the discretisation. That mesh shows that everything is correct. If i understand correctly, the surface mesh is, as well as the tetrahedrized one, obtained through the intersection of the, let's call them, rules defining the objects of the pov file and the background mesh, but this time only 2d triangles are used. As i said the surface mesh shows the two "capillaries" with the correct absolute length (length is in the Z dimension, and depends on the size of the discretisation of the Z dimension of the background mesh that is 
0.1 cm) of 50 and 52 elements, and also the correct relative heigth.

However, when i construct the tetrahedrize one as 

mesh T1 =tetrahedrize(Omega,M);
save(medit,"gcb_inic",T1);

Something strange happens. It seems that one of the capillaries shows one element less in the z dimension and it seems that is missing from the top since there are 
0.2 cm (2 elements) between the end of the inner and outer cylinder in the first capillary and the plot shows only one. However, the upper end of the capillary is correctly positioned at 6.0 cm, and the beginning starts at a distance that is shifted upwards along z one element (
0.1 cm). So it seems that it is translated upward (along z) a length of one element. The other capillary is missing two elements this time, from the top as well, But it is also displaced upwards a length of one element only. Why does this happen?. The lengths of the capillaries and their position along z are chosen so that they fit in an integer number of elements of the z dimension,beginning with the beginning of an element and ending with the end of an element; so the intersection should be almost exact, or not?

Moreover, is this just an effect of the construction of the visualization mesh?, it is my problem really been solved in the more correct geometry that can be infered from the surface mesh plot?
Can i just ignore those missing elements and displacements of the objects if i just obtain the values of the diffusing substance with calls of the type a=salt(x0, y0, z0)? I have tried with a discretisation along z dimension of 
0.05 cm, that is, halving the length of the elements, and the results are the same. Again the first capillary lacks one element and is shifted up one element, while the other lacks two from the top as before and is shifted up one element.

Thanks so much for your help Stephane

Best regards 

Emilio

PS I copy here the definition of the capillaries from the pov file so that my mail can be better understood

difference{
cylinder {
<0.195,0.3375,1.0>,<0.195,0.3375,6.0>,0.055
  }
cylinder {
<0.195,0.3375,0.9>,<0.195,0.3375,5.8>,0.025
  }
pigment { color rgb <1,0,0>} 
}

difference{
cylinder {
<0.195,1.0125,0.8>,<0.195,1.0125,6.0>,0.055
  }
cylinder {
<0.195,1.0125,0.7>,<0.195,1.0125,5.4>,0.025
  }
pigment { color rgb <1,1,0>}
}

2007/1/31, Stephane Del Pino <address@hidden>:

Hello.

If I understand your problem: you think that the domain geometry is not
correctly described.

I think that the description is correct: you are using a fictitious domain
approximation. This means that the mesh does not fit the geometry. In fact
the tetrahedrization show all tetrahedra that *intersect* the domain. If you
want to see the effective boundary of the discretization use the instructions
        mesh smesh = surface(Omega,M);
        save(medit,"surface",smesh);
you will then be able to ensure that the geometry is correct.

I am sorry but I just noticed that there is a bug concerning the surface mesh
generation from the 1.0-pre9 release, so use your 1.0-pre7 to build this
mesh.

Concerning the size of the matrix, you can use the option
        solve(salt) in Omega by M
          memory(matrix=none)
        {

which is a bit slower but consumes much less memory.

Best regards,
Stéphane.



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