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Re: [ff3d-users] Navier-Stokes problem


From: Stephane Del Pino
Subject: Re: [ff3d-users] Navier-Stokes problem
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 08:04:55 +0200
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Hello Thomas.

Le dimanche 3 juin 2007, Thomas B a écrit :
> Hi!
> I tried to use FreeFEM3D to simulate an object being pulled through water.
> First I used the example "navier-stokes.ff" provided with FreeFEM3D but
> I had several problems with the "eps" parameter. After searching in the
> archive of this mailing list I found the thread started by Dominique
> Deloisin just a few days ago and the nice solution by Stephan.
> But I still have some problems:
> 1) Is it possible to simulate the case described above by assuming that
> the object rests while water is moving? The flow is assumed to be
> stationary.
If you mean that in this case, the object is not moving, the strategy used by 
Dominique is good I think. But I don't understand why your flow should be 
assumed stationary.
> 2) If yes, how can you compute the force acting on the object if the
> algorithm forces the pressure to be quite random in the object itself?
> It seems to be impossible to  accurately interpolate the pressure on the
> actual surface of the object.
Yes. The force on the object can be approximated by the integral over the 
object of 1/epsilon*U :
        double fx = int[M](1/epsilon*ux);
        double fy = int[M](1/epsilon*uy);
        double fz = int[M](1/epsilon*uz);
where U = (ux,uy,uz) and the epsilon is used for the penalty term P in the 
example for Dominique, 1/epsilon = 10^3.

If you need to compute moving objects, I can also give you a solution.

Best regards,
Stéphane.






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