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RE: [Fle3-users] Why is it good to use FLE?

From: César Hernández Rosete
Subject: RE: [Fle3-users] Why is it good to use FLE?
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 10:11:21 -0700

Dear Teemu,

Thank you, you have done me see points that I had not been happened.

But here in Mexico we have us a problem: The public institutions can only
assist to the population's 10%.

We have attempted with LMS, but without success, The Technologies of
Information for support to the training are only used in 11% (with success).

we need LMS+"modern learning techniques". Technical of learning like
Collaborative Learning. That is to say as FLE.

I believe that LSM+FLE+"group Meetings in the classroom". This can improve
the learning, the meetings could be more sporadic than the classes
traditions and with this we would achieve: To improve the teaching and to
take advantage of the educational spaces.

What do yoy think of this?.

What does LMS recommend me? That this it is GNU.

How does FLE behave with 100 users?  and with 3,000 users?

Thank you.


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Teemu Leinonen
Enviado el: Martes, 05 de Agosto de 2003 06:27 a.m.
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Asunto: Re: [Fle3-users] Why is it good to use FLE?

Dear César,

Thank you for your interesting insights and questions. I'll try to
answer them behalf of the Fle3 research and design team.

César Hernández Rosete wrote:
> We reach the conclusion that one doesn't need FLE to work in collaborative
> learning, rather FLE would be useful for on-line learning, for the
> reasons:
> 1.We don't have PC's in the classroom.

Fle3 can be used just with a single PC. Each user may login to the
system with their own user name and password and work with the Fle3,
rotating the use of the computer. Student can also first write down
their thoughts in to paper notebook and then write them from there to
Fle3 when it is their turn to use the computer.

Of course you can use Fle3 for on-line learning, as well. Actually we
think that strict separation of off line and on line learning is pretty
artificial. Some things are better to do off-line and some on-line. Also
same tools can be used both in class room and in on-line learning. We
think Fle3 is a such tool.

> 2. of having PC's it is quicker to speak that to write.

The reason to use computers (and Fle3) in collaborative learning is
related to the idea that cognitive load may be divided between a human
beings and external thinking tools (paper, book,  computers etc.). So
within Fle3 (or other computer tools) also notebook (paper) and pen or
white board and pen can be used as a thinking tools.

The point is that we write down things. By writing down our questions,
thoughts, opinion and ideas we make them visible, explicit and
manageable. Written thoughts are such that we can get back to them,
evaluate them and develop them further.

So, in collaborative learning we can of course use just paper and pen to
write down our problems, own explanations, scientific explanations, etc.
In a class room we can even share them all by sticking them to the wall
or white board. After working this way, let's say two months and writing
  more than 300 notes, we most likely will face information management
problems. Who wrote what note and when? On what topic was this note
related to? etc.?

On the one hand, when we just speak out our thoughts we often do not get
any record what was said, when and by whom. For this reason in a well
organized meeting (whatever business or collaborative learning meeting)
someone is always taking the minutes of the meeting. In an collaborative
learning a lot of work is done not only in a meetings, but in a library
and in a small groups. The findings of this working is easy to share for
others with Fle3.

Also we know that in a class room there is always only one speaking on
time whereas when writing we can all write same time. In several studies
we have noticed that the use of Fle3 in a class room have made the
participation of the pupils more equal. When speaking is often dominated
by some pupils in the class room, Fle3 offers equal oportunity for
everybody to participate to the collaborative learning.

Fle3 also guides students to the inquiry learning that starts from
problem setting, continues by presenting own explanations, searching for
scientific explanations and making summaries. In a way the knowledge
type sets reminds students what kind of notes they should produce to
advance the knowledge building process.

> Why  do you  defend the fact so much that FLE is not a LMS?.

We have not designed and developed Fle3 for "managing" learning. We have
designed Fle3 to support learning. Most of the LMS are really focusing
more on "management" than on "learning". Whereas we have our focus
strictly on "learning".

In most of the LMS the learning is the subject and the management is the
object. This often leads to very simplistic conception of learning,
where learning is equal to memorizing. In this case learning takes place
simply by reading, listing and taking quizzes. This is not what Fle3 is
made for.

Best regards,

        - Teemu

Teemu Leinonen
Office: + 358 9 756 30 296
GSM: +358 50 351 6796
Media Lab, UIAH Helsinki
Future Learning Environment 3

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