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Re: [Freebangfont-devel] Best looking glyphs
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Kaushik Ghose |
Subject: |
Re: [Freebangfont-devel] Best looking glyphs |
Date: |
Sat, 8 Feb 2003 15:41:22 -0500 (EST) |
Hi,
Thanks Deepayan for telling me this. I downloaded adarhalipi a long time
ago and thought you could redistribute it. (I've seen a large number of
sites carry their own copy for download and assumed).
Any way I've written to the people at barnamala
(http://www.pastelshade.com/barnamala/download/) (couldn't find an address
at proshikha computer systems...) who distribute the font.
About the .dll - its a link to another site. I don't carry the actual
file. Could linking get me in trouble ?
-kg
On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, Deepayan Sarkar wrote:
>
> I would say yes, it _is_ illegal, unless you have explicit permission from the
> copyright holder to do so (no such permission seems to be given in the font,
> but it might be given somewhere else). The general fair-use rule is that if
> someone makes some copyrighted material available (whether for free or not),
> you can do whatever you want for your own use, but cannot re-distribute it
> without permission.
>
> You should ideally provide a link to the site where adarshalipi is officially
> available from.
>
> (While on this, tumi je lekho-r site-e usp10.dll-ta rekhechho, seta definitely
> be-aini.)
>
> This is of course US law, I have no idea what India/Bangladesh laws say
> (obviously no one there seems to care).
>
> A long time back, I read in a VOLT mailing list message that most modern
> bengali fonts (excluding the more 'fancy' ones) are essentially clones of a
> typeface called 'Linotype Bengali'. I quote (from that message):
>
> ----------------------
> Linotype Bengali is the registered name of a typeface developed by Linotype in
> the UK in 1977-79, originally for the CRTronic typesetter, and first used by
> the Calcutta newspaper Ananda Patrika Bazaar. It was developed by a group
> including Fiona Ross, then head of Non-Latin typogrpahy at Linotype, Dr
> Tarapada Mukherjeee of the School of Oriental and African Studies in London,
> and the type designer Tim Holloway. Documentation relating to the typeface
> and dating from the period of release, is deposited at the St Brides Prinitng
> Library in London.
> ----------------------
>
> (I have the full - quite long - message if any of you are interested)
>
> This seems quite believable to me, as the font used by several different
> publishers are almost identical (to the extent that we feel that somehow that
> IS the official bengali shape). And as far as I know (I am not a lawyer of
> course), typefaces are copyrighted (in India at least, and Bangladesh as
> well, I would guess). If that is true, I think (and this is personal opinion,
> without any legal basis) that adarshalipi and all similar looking fonts all
> violate copyright.
>
> Then of course, there is US law, which apparently says that typefaces are not
> copyrighted, only their implementations are. So, as long as we distribute the
> fonts from an US server, we can copy any typeface we want, provided we build
> the fonts from scratch using images of the glyphs and not the outlines
> directly.
>
> Anyway, the whole thing is very complicated.
>
>
> On Saturday 08 February 2003 12:53 pm, Kaushik Ghose wrote:
> > Hiya,
> > quick question.
> > Is it illegal to distribute the adarshalipi fonts with the Lekho distro ?
> > -kg
> >
> > On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, Robin Upton wrote:
> > > Yeah, I'm convinced. It looks like Ekushey font is made up of proprietary
> > > glyphs:(
> > > Thanks for pointing this out, Deepayan. The glyphs came from a font
> > > enttiled 'Bangla Qaran' that carried the name of Sayed Md. Rasel. He gave
> > > me permission to
> > > use them for Ekushey and I didn't enquire further. More fool me.
> > >
> > > Robin
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: address@hidden
> > > [mailto:address@hidden
> > > Behalf Of Deepayan Sarkar
> > > Sent: 07 February 2003 21:58
> > > To: Free Bangla Font Development
> > > Subject: Re: [Freebangfont-devel] Best looking glyphs
> > >
> > > On Friday 07 February 2003 02:35 pm, Kaushik Ghose wrote:
> > > > the fonts that "ekushey" uses are kinda nice.
> > > > they are higher ascii TTF
> > >
> > > Almost identical to adarshalipi (definitely same origin). I have a
> > > pfaedit screenshot with the two superposed at
> > >
> > > http://www.stat.wisc.edu/~deepayan/R/fntcmp.jpg
> > >
> > >
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Re: [Freebangfont-devel] Best looking glyphs, Deepayan Sarkar, 2003/02/07