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[Freeipmi-devel] RE: Intel and IAMT

From: Cress, Andrew R
Subject: [Freeipmi-devel] RE: Intel and IAMT
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:38:06 -0400


Sorry for the delay in responding.  

I think you may have gotten got the wrong impression about Intel AMT
positioning wrt IPMI.  Of course Intel servers do support IPMI.  Intel
is not moving away from IPMI, which gives servers a full-featured system
management strategy.

AMT is currently targeted for client desktops, and has a level of system
management capability that was not previously available for this space.
For server platforms, Intel will continue to provide and support IPMI
BMCs.  Intel provides software building blocks and embedded logic to
enable customers to manage both server and client systems.  Intel is
investigating whether some  AMT functions may be added to the server
IPMI environment also.    
The DMTF is writing system management standards which include
higher-level interfaces like WS-MAN & XML that both client and server
systems will also support in the future.

The interface to Intel AMT for client systems is currently proprietary
(as are a lot of new technologies), but evolving.  Maybe soon either the
AMT interface will evolve to an upcoming standard, or Intel may publish
it beyond NDA.  In the meantime, Intel has to provide the APIs and tools
for customers to utilize this AMT technology on clients so that it can
be used alongside IPMI technology on servers.  


-----Original Message-----
From: Anand Babu [mailto:address@hidden 
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 6:27 PM
To: Cress, Andrew R
Cc: address@hidden
Subject: Intel and IAMT

On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 04:35:19PM -0400, Cress, Andrew R wrote:
| This routine didn't seem to work at all in freeipmi-0.2.2-qa0 (would
| call sendto with NULL pointer).  The routine is below, with the two
| changes are commented with ARC:.
| Andy
| ---
| ssize_t 
| ipmi_lan_sendto (int sockfd, 
|                const void *buffer, 
|                size_t buffer_size, 
|                int flags, 
|                const struct sockaddr *server_addr, 
|                socklen_t server_addr_len)
| {
|   void *packet = NULL;
|   size_t packet_length = 0;
|   ssize_t bytes_sent = 0;
|   int fusepad = 0;
Hi Cress,
This bug is already fixed in the CVS by Bala. Thanks for looking into

BTW, I am upset at the way Intel is taking platform management
forward.  Intel was the one to promote IPMI and now Intel is moving to a
proprietary IAMT implementation. Till now, I could not get the specs
for AMT without NDA. I was offered to receive SDK source but with NDA
and I refused.

AMD, HP, DELL, SUN, IBM and the rest of the world supports IPMI now.
Even Tyan Bensley platforms supports IAMT. Only the Intel motherboards

Can you throw us some light on this issue and help us with specs if

Anand Babu 
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