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Re: [Fsfe-uk] An ignorant question?
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Neil Darlow |
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Re: [Fsfe-uk] An ignorant question? |
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Mon, 9 Jun 2003 16:54:22 +0100 |
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Hi,
On Monday 09 Jun 2003 3:33 pm, Chris Croughton wrote:
> Exactly, and that is a major area in which Free Software falls down very
> frequently. Good functionality, crap interfaces because the programs
> are mostly designed by and for geeks who are more interested in writing
> the code than in making it easy for other people who just want to get a
> job done. (And before people get mad, this describes me as well, my
> idea of a good interface for a program I write ususally takes all of the
> alphabet for command line switches!)
Which was one of the driving forces behind the creation of the AFSP (yes, I
know there's still a lot of publicity material for me to write). This being
the production of highly accessible, both physically and linguistically,
programs provided in stable, documented and well-tested releases - usable by
both the enterprise and average user.
> As another example, I really want a version of Visual Basic, or
> something as easy to use, for X. I want to be able to knock up simple X
> GUI apps without having to code in all the position stuff, message loops
> etc., I want to just say "I want a button <here>" then right-click to
> get to the code for that button with whatever events it handles. And
> before people say "If you want it then write it", the whole point is
> that if I knew enough about X programming to write it I wouldn't need
> the thing!
You might want to take a look at Glade if Gtk/Gnome applications are what
you're after. KDevelop performs a similar function for Qt/KDE. Neither are
turnkey application generators but they remove a lot of the drudgery.
> I'm not at all surprised that MS had such a thing, they always have been
> good at writing stuff for ordinary people to use -- VB (and don't forget
> that MS BASIC was /the/ standard BASIC for many machines for many
> years), Excel, Word, Access, several others. The Free Software has been
> getting better, but there are many areas where it is nowhere near as
> easy to use as the proprietary alternatives.
The AFSP has, as one of its aims, the promotion of quality in Free Software
production. A longer term aim is to secure sponsorship for the development of
significant applications. With the GnuCash project moving towards being the
definitive personal finance application, I would like the AFSP to undertake
the development of an accountancy suite to give Sage and QuickBooks some
worthy competition.
Regards,
Neil Darlow M.Sc.
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- Re: [Fsfe-uk] An ignorant question?, (continued)
Re: [Fsfe-uk] An ignorant question?, MJ Ray, 2003/06/06
- Re: [Fsfe-uk] An ignorant question?, ian, 2003/06/06
- Re: [Fsfe-uk] An ignorant question?, Phil Driscoll, 2003/06/07
- RE: [Fsfe-uk] An ignorant question?, Robert \(Jamie\) Munro, 2003/06/09
- Re: [Fsfe-uk] An ignorant question?, Chris Croughton, 2003/06/09
- Re: [Fsfe-uk] An ignorant question?,
Neil Darlow <=
- Re: [Fsfe-uk] An ignorant question?, ian, 2003/06/09
- Re: [Fsfe-uk] An ignorant question?, Neil Darlow, 2003/06/09
- Re: [Fsfe-uk] An ignorant question?, ian, 2003/06/09
Re: [Fsfe-uk] An ignorant question?, Chris Croughton, 2003/06/09
Re: [Fsfe-uk] An ignorant question?, Robin Green, 2003/06/09
Re: [Fsfe-uk] An ignorant question?, Robin Green, 2003/06/09
[Fsfe-uk] Re: An ignorant question?, Sean Rima, 2003/06/10
Re: [Fsfe-uk] An ignorant question?, MJ Ray, 2003/06/10
Re: [Fsfe-uk] An ignorant question?, Chris Croughton, 2003/06/11
Re: [Fsfe-uk] An ignorant question?, PFJ, 2003/06/11