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[Fsfe-uk] AFFS conference, AGM, reform
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MJ Ray |
Subject: |
[Fsfe-uk] AFFS conference, AGM, reform |
Date: |
Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:29:14 +0000 |
The last AFFS annual conference was on 15 May 2004 and had the AGM at
its end. So, by my reckoning, the next AGM should be soon after Easter
and must be on or before 15 August.
Last year, many excellent people arranged everything from the food to
the venue. If you are interested in helping with this year's event
from an early stage, please email frontdesk at affs.org.uk
Personally, I'd really rather not spend more time on AFFS's setup, but
AFFS currently holds about GBP 3000 (please apply for more grants!)
and I will leave ctte before very long*, so getting a sound structure
for the future is important to me. I want to try to gather opinions in
plenty of time. Please read through and send a short reply to me or
the list.
You may remember that an attempt was made to change the constitution
last year (see the page at http://www.affs.org.uk/affsac-2004.html for
a memory jog), but defeated. I voted against because
1. I didn't agree with all "notes";
2. I'm afraid to replace such large sections of an example
constitution;
3. it seemed like a one-sided union-style argument rather than a
choice;
4. it lacked proof-reading.
You can find some background discussion in archives up to May 2004 in
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/fsfe-uk/ but there was more. (You
may want to ask future ctte candidates about their attitudes to
private lists.)
You can see from the July 2004 ctte minutes on the web site (under
Members) that the discussion of this was postponed. It wasn't on the
agenda of the October 2004 ctte meeting. Now the AGM approaches once
more and we need to address it because:
1. Some members dispute that postal voting is possible with the
present constitution (which is based on an NCVO example of the time);
2. No Election Rules exist.
I think point 2 is something that ctte could and should deal with
before the AGM. I'd welcome proposals or suggestions. In the past, I
suggested using either the Electoral Reform Society or Royal
Statistical Society voting procedures, which are forms of Single
Transferable Vote. From experience, we won't need them anyway, so I'd
like to do the simplest thing that will work.
To deal with point 1, we have to look at the constitution. There are
four routes which seem reasonable to me:
A. Patch - delete the offending wording (everything after PROVIDED
THAT) from the end of clause 6d. Will that be enough to work? Is AFFS
essentially sound, or near enough that the procedures aren't worth
extra work? This option requires a two-thirds majority of AGM
attendees in favour (over option D, AIUI).
B. Replace - customise another example constitution, possibly becoming
an limited company or Industrial and Provident Society at the same
time. Do you think some other constitution is better? Do we want a
legal entity for AFFS? This option requires a two-thirds majority of
AGM attendees in favour.
C. Reform - vote to dissolve and form some other structure. Is the
current AFFS effective? Is its structure fundamentally broken? We
could try organising a network of smaller special-interest groups, or
maybe consensus decision-making rather than ctte divisions. This
option requires a two-thirds majority of ctte and a two-thirds
majority of AGM attendees to approve it. Any money currently held
could transfer to the new organisation or FSFE, as allowed by the
current constitution.
D. Do Nothing - assert that there is no problem and plan to defeat all
attempts to amend the current constitution. Do you think we can do
postal votes anyway? Do you think postal voting is unnecessary? We
could hope to defeat challenges to postal voting (depends on good
Election Rules being passed by ctte) or just never use postal voting.
This option requires more than a third of AGM attendees in favour at
each attempt to change the consitution and an as-yet-unknown quantity
for any election challenge.
There is also E: Something Else, but I haven't thought of it. If you
can, correct my oversight.
Please let me know what you think about these, by email to myself or
this mailing list. I will try to propose any options with reasonable
support to the AGM. I don't think we need to whittle it down to one
just yet, so don't go flaming supporters of other options. Ask
questions if you don't understand their reasons, though.
* footnote to ctte: Exact timing depends how things go this year, but
I'll try to give everyone reasonable notice when I know the date. I
want to spend more time on local issues and other subjects.
* footnote to members: Don't worry. There are still good people there.
If you have a little time to spare, please consider helping to lead
AFFS.
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- Re: [Fsfe-uk] AFFS conference, AGM, reform, Alex Hudson, 2005/01/13
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- Re: [Fsfe-uk] AFFS conference, AGM, reform, Alex Hudson, 2005/01/13
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