Re: [Fsfe-uk] BBC's DRM Iplayer windows only

[Noah Slater]

On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 05:49:26PM +0000, MJ Ray wrote:
> Arguably, calling the operating system GNU+Linux or Linux+GNU, while
> more accurate, is retronaming in a way.

No, you are totally wrong.

  "Starting this Thanksgiving I am going to write a complete
  Unix-compatible software system called GNU (for Gnu's Not Unix), and
  give it away free to everyone who can use it.  Contributions of time,
  money, programs and equipment are greatly needed. "

  Richard Stallman, Sept 27 1983

  http://groups.google.com/group/net.unix-wizards/msg/4dadd63a976019d7

  "I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and
  professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones.  This has been brewing
  since april, and is starting to get ready.  I'd like any feedback on
  things people like/dislike in minix, as my OS resembles it somewhat
  (same physical layout of the file-system (due to practical reasons)
  among other things).

  Linus Torvalds, Aug 26 1991

  http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.minix/msg/b813d52cbc5a044b

The GNU operating system predates Linux by 8 years.

> I'm not sure that Open Source is a revision of Free Software

The Free Software Foundation was started in 1985 by RMS.

The Open Source Initiative was founded in 1998 by ESR.

Free Software predates Open Source by 15 years.

> Anyway, please finish this subthread (there will be a slight delay on
> posts to it from now on) and direct the discussion towards the
> "Growing FSFE" one.  We all know the views on GNU+Linux - unless
> you've a killer unknown argument or link, please don't take the list
> around in circles.

Is this list moderated? What do you mean delay? I didn't realise we
were only allowed to discuss things deemed suitable subject matter.

If you look closely, I am not arguing the point that GNU/Linux is the
correct name, I am arguing the point that the FSF still needs to
protect and campaign the name. A very differnt topic and a very
important one.

-- 
Noah Slater <http://bytesexual.org/>

"Creativity can be a social contribution, but only in so far as
society is free to use the results." - R. Stallman

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