Re: [Fsuk-manchester] Fwd: Event: Manchester Girl Geek Dinner #2 - 7:00 PM Friday, July 25, 2008

[Lucy]

On 29/07/2008, Paul Waring <address@hidden> wrote:
>
>  "The exclusion happens among people who often do not mean to appear, and
>  who do not interpret their own actions, as hostile to women."
>
>  Whilst I wouldn't advocate building an entire assumption round one quote
>  from a report, perhaps this lends a bit of weight to the suggestion that
>  women are not intentionally excluded from F/LOSS or IT in general.

I agree, like I said, I don't believe it's intentional most of the
time, but that the exclusion is still there..

>  Also, since people have brought up so many bad examples, I would like to
>  at least point to one positive one - in my lab/office the gender balance
>  is exactly 50:50,

Yes, same here. I think we are quite lucky working in academia where
it's not such an issue. However, in my first job I was the first ever
female support/technician in the company (the other women in the
office made tea or were in HR, etc) and was hired partly because it
was thought I would be better at dealing with people since I was
female - never mind having hardly any communications skills on my CV
and that I was supposedly being interviewed for a job as a developer.

The discrimination is still out there and it doesn't have to be big to
have an impact. I would like to think that things are slowly improving
though ;)