Re: Latest changes in G-Wrap

[Andreas Rottmann]

address@hidden (Ludovic Courtès) writes:

> Specifically:
>
>> #    * guile/g-wrap/guile.scm (module-public-interface): Make sure that
>> #    using (g-wrap guile) also uses (g-wrap c-codegen), as it used to.
>> #    This fixes compilation of guile-gnome.
>> #    (generate-wrapset-scm): Reindent for spaces instead of tabs. If
>> #    this module had generics, make our public interface export the
>> #    generics as well.
>
> Is this a guile-gnome-tailored arrangement?  If so, then perhaps we
> should explicitly mention somewhere that G-Wrap is a tool *for*
> guile-gnome, not a tool that seeks generality.
>
> I mean: of course, we don't want to make guile-gnome's life harder for
> no reason.  But we should also decide on G-Wrap's goals: if we can make
> it generic enough (and it's already doing good in that respect, better
> than SWIG, needless to say), then we should somehow "set a direction"
> and avoid being too application-specific.
>
>> #    * guile/g-wrap/guile-runtime.c
>> #    (gw_guile_ensure_latent_generics_hash)
>> #    (gw_generics_module_binder_proc)
>> #    (gw_guile_ensure_generics_module)
>> #    (gw_guile_set_generics_module_x)
>> #    ("%gw:procedure-to-method-public!"): Rework so that we don't munge
>> #    the root module or the scm module. Instead our generics are
>> #    deposited into a module of the user's choosing, defaulting to a
>> #    submodule named %generics.
>> #    
>> #    * guile/g-wrap/guile-runtime.c
>> #    * guile/g-wrap/guile-runtime.h
>> #    (gw_guile_set_generics_module_x): New public
>> #    API.
>
> I don't get those either.
>
>> Any chance these could get in your repo?
>
> Personally, I'd be glad if Andreas could provide use his views on the
> topic.  I'd like to see more consistency and clear rationale in the
> changes that we make, and I'd like them to follow *some* vision of what
> G-Wrap should be.  In particular, clarify whether G-Wrap is just
> guile-gnome's and Gnumeric's tool (I say "just", but I know it's already
> a lot), or whether it's trying to be a generic replacement for SWIG, at
> least for Guile-targeting programs.  I'm hoping for the latter, and I
> believe that's how it started.
>
Well, Wingo's generic method changes are not only benefitting
guile-gnome, but all clients that want to use this feature - they're
not really "application-specific". I hence see no reason not to apply
the changesets. And regarding G-Wrap as a generic SWIG replacement,
I'd say no, since it's unlikely that G-Wrap will support other
languages then Guile (despite the half-finished s48 support).

Cheers, Rotty
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