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Re: [Gluster-devel] LVM


From: Anand Babu Periasamy
Subject: Re: [Gluster-devel] LVM
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:34:10 -0700
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Towards end of this year, we will be introducing snapshot, hsm, dedup ... as 
GlusterFS
translators. It is better to wait for that one. Until then, Amanda like backup 
solution
over mounted GlusterFS volume is a better approach.
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Onyx wrote:
Krishna Srinivas wrote:
Onyx,

Just thinking about it, using snapshots as glusterfs storage volumes
is not advisable unless you know what you are doing. If you roll back
a volume, it will depend on how selfheal of unify/afr handle it. AFR
would just update the rolled back volume with the other copy.
Yes, that was what I was thinking. Newer will overwrite the older, witch is the rolled-back one in this case.

Better use of LVM + glusterfs would be to grow the backend FS
as an when needed.
Yes I have been thinking of that too.
I was just 'brainstorming' on a solution to have snapshot features in glusterfs.

I think use case of snapshots just in backend LVM in a glusterfs
environment will not be much. However snapshots in a glusterfs
as a whole filesystem will be useful.
It surely would.
Now, what if I would setup a glusterfs volume with lvm on all it's subvolumes. It shouldn't be to hard to write something that, if I want to make a snapshot of the whole glusterfs filesystem, it sends my "take snapshot"-command to the all the lvm subvolumes and executes the actual lvm snapshot command over there. Or am I missing something here?



Krishna

On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Onyx <address@hidden> wrote:
Hmm, yes, what was I thinking....

But if I want to use LVM snapshots underneath glusterfs volumes (on
different bricks) who are then unified or afr'd, won't there be a problem because the snapshots aren't taken at exactly the same time? Or what would
be the expected behavior if I for example roll back one volume in an afr
setup and not the other?





Anand Babu Periasamy wrote:
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Hi Onyx,
GlusterFS volumes are file based. LVM requires block based
store. You cannot have LVM over GlusterFS. I am assuming
you are asking about GlusterFS over LVM. You can use LVM and
its snapshotting ability underneath the GlusterFS posix volume.
It will work transparently.

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Anand Babu Periasamy
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Blog [http://ab.freeshell.org]
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Onyx wrote:
Has anyone ever tested LVM on top of a glusterfs volume? Would this even
be possible?
I'm interested because of the snapshot feature of LVM.

Thanks!


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