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Re: [gNewSense-users] Re: free is not sufficient

From: Anthony Patarini
Subject: Re: [gNewSense-users] Re: free is not sufficient
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 22:52:30 -0900
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Karl Goetz wrote:
The larger problem is the plugins (i thought)
This may be true. I'm not sure, but it's really the same issue - Firefox, by default, points users to non-free software and this should be changed. There are many Free plugins for Firefox, like mozilla-plugin-vlc in the repos and the GNASH browser plugin.
Ndiswrapper is a bit more troublesome, in that most of its purpose is to run non-free drivers. However, there are Free Software drivers for

really? i didn't know about that.

Yep. An example can be found at as linked from the NDISWrapper project page. This issue came up regarding ndiswrapper on Debian (I believe several times) a while back as well. Google-ing "debian ndiswrapper contrib" yields several such results.
All programming languages can be used for both types of software - talking about them doesn't make your point.
Actually I think it does... the point I'm making is that the tools in question are freedom agnostic and by removing a specific tool because it MIGHT be used to run non-free software really seems like we're trying to police the user. Is that really what freedom is about? Deliberately making life more difficult for those who would use non-free components AS WELL AS those who want to run atypical Free Software? My personal ideal situation is one in which gNewSense provides absolutely no non-free software by default, and does not link to or advocate the use of non-free software, but does not waste the effort to remove components that are Free in and of themselves.
removing anything that interacts with non-free isnt functional... unless we dont need openoffice :)
I don't get your meaning, sorry. :(

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