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Re: [gNewSense-users] Why not make a version of Debian GNU/Linux

From: Max Moritz Sievers
Subject: Re: [gNewSense-users] Why not make a version of Debian GNU/Linux
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 13:20:18 +0100
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Paul O'Malley wrote:
> > But there would be advantages if gNewSense was a version of Debian
> > GNU/Linux with only main and the Firmware removed from Linux:
> > - not derived from a »Linux«
> I don't understand, my take on it is that all are derived from 

Yes they all use Linux but I don't like to call the operating system Linux. 
Like Chris F.A. Johnson just did and also claimed it would be a variety of 
Unix. Legally it is quite important that GNU's Not Unix. And it is also 
important to recognise GNU/Linux as a GNU variant as RMS states in his 
speeches like:

> > - does not ship Firefox
> Being worked on here.

Ubuntu is going to make a special solution for Mozilla software and is not 
quitting its distribution---unlike Debian.

> > - much more install options (e.g. USB memory stick)
> Each version would cost us a lot of effort for time we have not got or
> won't expend as we have other things going on.
> > - much more supported platforms
> See last comment.

I don't see what's the effort here.  If it were not the non-free firmware in 
Linux I guess I could do it myself in a few hours or at least a few days 
(becuase I never build a distribution before). I am suggesting to use Debian 
GNU/Linux and just deliver only main. If there weren't the issues with Linux 
this way we would have everything we want (in this matter). They already have 
CD/DVD, (inofficial LiveCD/DVD), USB memory stick, boot up install, automated 
install. We also didn't have to set up our own mirror. 

Becuase of the non-free firmware in Linux we would have to build every install 
image ourselves. So maybe we wouldn't substitute everything at first. But I 
guess we could get Debian developers to help us if we would make gNewSense 
(or a new name) more a version of Debian GNU/Linux than a derived 

Max Moritz Sievers

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