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Re: [gNewSense-users] Show us the Code?

From: Ringo Kamens
Subject: Re: [gNewSense-users] Show us the Code?
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:47:52 -0700

Sorry, I'm trying to get better at that.

On 26 Feb 2007 20:41:00 -0500, rek2GNU/Linux <address@hidden> wrote:

I agree with ringo for most part...
But ringot is not linux but gnu/linux
-----Original Message-----
From: "Ringo Kamens" <address@hidden>
Date: Monday, Feb 26, 2007 8:19 pm
Subject: Re: [gNewSense-users] Show us the Code?
To: "Kevin M. Dean" <address@hidden>
CC: address@hidden

While it's true that I don't see gnewsense as a distribution that
should be involved in "pissing contests" I believe it's worthwhile to add
our name to the list. When Microsoft makes libelous claims about
"patent infringement" it drives people away from using Linux. They
falsely believe linux is illegal or that doubt of its legality would
create problems. Have we seen this technique before? Yes. Tobacco
companies used it and in an internal memo said "doubt is our product". We
saw their campaigns "More doctors choose camel!". We are seeing oil
companies do this by inserting junk science and mis-information
campaigns into the media. 99% of scientists believe in global warming but
only about 50% of media articles do. This is the technique
Microsoft is using and I see no reason to stand by and watch it when
we could take action.
Ringo Kamens

On 2/25/07, Kevin M. Dean <address@hidden> wrote:
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> Honestly, I think statements like that are kind of useless.

> 1.) gNewSense is about promoting Freedom, not about thrashing those who
 write non-free code.

> 2.) Microsoft will never actually release the source code. They have
 officially stated that they are against the CONCEPT of open code, let
 alone the possibility of them opening it themselves.

> I'd personally rather see gNewSense be seen as the distro that is all
 about Free software, but stays out of the corporate pissing contests.

 Ringo Kamens wrote:
 > Open Letter to Steven Ballmer
 > It's come to many in the Linux community's attention you have claimed
 > again and again, that Linux violates Microsoft's intellectual
 > property.  Not only that, but it's been reported Microsoft has
 > convinced businesses to pay for a Linux patent that you can't provide.
 > Therefore, this website will serve as a response to this accusation,
 > and within it, a request.   The request is simple, since you,
 > Microsoft, claim to be so sure of yourself: Show Us the Code.
 > If Linux developers are made aware of the code, then the code can be
 > omitted and Linux can re-write necessary aspects of the kernel or
 > operating system.  This is a fairly simple request and common
 > courtesy. Why wave around lawsuit threats, threats that will cost
 > Microsoft in a court room as well as the defendants? It lacks logic,
 > especially when you consider that there are developers around the

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