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Re: [gNewSense-users] Just some things I'd like to say....

From: Justin Baugh
Subject: Re: [gNewSense-users] Just some things I'd like to say....
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:08:01 -0400 (EDT)
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> Folks, this is a -devel list, primarily for discussion of work that people
> are actually doing on Gobuntu. Most of the traffic so far as been "what we
> want from Gobuntu" not "what we will put into Gobuntu". Please don't use
> this list as a forum for demands about your ideal platform - use it to
> discuss the work you are willing to put into bringing Gobuntu more into
> line with that ideal.
> Gobuntu exists as a forum for action - it will only be as good as the
> effort that goes into it. Colin, Evan, Daniel Holbach and others will help
> anyone who wants to put time and effort into Gobuntu achieve that goal.
> Mark
> Is he saying that, of all the feedback and ideas on how to make Gobuntu
> more free he is acturaly telling us to basicaly shut up?!

You missed his point entirely.

What Shuttleworth is saying is that much like on this mailing list, there
are lots of people occasionally clamoring for a feature or something they
want - but want someone else to do it for them. Very rarely on this list
(*please* correct me if I am wrong) do you see someone propose a feature
that they actually implement themselves. PFV is the only exception of
something that lots of people are helping with (btw Chris, as a sidenote,
I disagree entirely that the bottleneck for having a updated gNS release
is PFV. It would seem to be instead exclusively related to available
developer time).

He's basically saying that people making endless requests is unhelpful.
And you know what? He's right. It's far more helpful for someone to
discuss what work they can actually do to achieve a goal rather than to
just clamor for the goal over and over again. He's not telling people to
shut up - rather, to put up. gNS should illustrate that making a totally
free OS is not an easy task, and not to be taken lightly. Action is worth
ten thousand words.

I don't think his response is so horrible, personally. I'm more than happy
to entertain a discussion of why it is, however.


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