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Re: Fwd: [gNewSense-users] Absolutely open sourced mobile phones?

From: Javier Garcia
Subject: Re: Fwd: [gNewSense-users] Absolutely open sourced mobile phones?
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:56:01 +0000 (GMT)

I asked the Open?Moko list:

> recently i have discovered this list with truly opened operative systems that the FSF recommeds.
> Is OpenMoko absolutely compromise with open source? If yes, have you thought in asking to add OpenMoko to that list?

Depends on what you mean. "Openmoko" is a distro, company and a piece
of hardware. I only consider the "hardware" here since I do not use
the openmoko distro but debian on my phone.

The GSM stack runs an a separate ARM processor using a proprietary
operating system ("Nucleus PLUS" real-time operating system based on
strings from the firmware image). It was not field-upgradeable until
late 2008 when openmoko inc. published a port of the firmware upgrade
utility fluid.exe (it's binary-only) so that a bug could be fixed.

The wlan, gps and bluetooth chips also run some proprietary code but I
do not know if they are field-upgradeable.

De: Karl Goetz <address@hidden>
Para: address@hidden
Enviado: viernes, 24 de abril, 2009 13:26:33
Asunto: Re: Fwd: [gNewSense-users] Absolutely open sourced mobile phones?

On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:17:50 +0100
Chris Andrew <address@hidden> wrote:

> I forgot to CC the reply to the list.
> Chris.
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Chris Andrew <address@hidden>
> Date: 2009/4/24
> Subject: Re: [gNewSense-users] Absolutely open sourced mobile phones?
> To: Javier Garcia <address@hidden>
> Have you tried Google?
> You may want to Google "Openmoko", or you could always root a G1.

The G1 is not yet a 100% free platform (there are still non-free blobs).

> Chris.
> 2009/4/24 Javier Garcia <address@hidden>:
> > Hi,
> >
> > any way to have absolutely open sourced mobile phones? if not, any
> > chance to get it someday or is it impossible?
> >
> > Bye
> >

Karl Goetz, (Kamping_Kaiser / VK5FOSS)
Debian user / gNewSense contributor
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