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Re: [gNewSense-users] RE: I decided to abandon gNewSense

From: Christophe Pisteur
Subject: Re: [gNewSense-users] RE: I decided to abandon gNewSense
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 23:28:30 +0200
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about this dialogue:

> > > gNewSense is not just for the free software hacker "in-crowd". It's also
> > > for me and for you and for Patrick and for the rest of the world.
> Is this your first distro?

For my part, gNS wasn't my first gnu/linux distro. And I certainly would not 
have come to free software if I didn't try before Mandriva or Ubuntu. Ok, it 
was erring ways... ;) But yes: I came step by step to the philosophy of gNS, 
and also to understand how to do with the difficulties to have only free 
software (I don't speak about games or somthing like this, but about my work 
in my office). 
So, long life to gNS and his philosophy! It's a long way.

Le Tuesday 19 May 2009 21:08:11 Mu, vous avez écrit :
> > It's great that you want to help and I hope you will continue to do so.
> I'll do within my posibilities :-)
> > Ubuntu might be less bad than Windows, but that still doesn't make it
> > good from a free software point of view. I hope you can see why we have
> > the policy outlined in our community guidelines.
> I understand and support this policy. The only reason I propossed
> Ubuntu was because he was going to fall into Windows. And I proposed
> it to start accoustoming and later could return to gNS, in the same
> way a Windows user that shitches from MS Office to OpenOffice and
> other free programs can after change easily to GNU/Linux.
> > Recommending non-free software
> > diminishes the importance of software freedom and so must be avoided.
> I would like to clarify: is Ubuntu, Debian or other distros considered
> non-free by this purpose? Maybe it should be staten in the guidelines.
> >  This would set gNewSense on the path of becoming an
> > "elitist" operating system (as some have already accused it of being).
> >
> >
> > I tended to see it this way. Not exactly elitist, but for people who can
> > understand why it is important. Giving gNS to someone that will not
> > achieve using it, is create a user that will never return. In this line,
> > I used to see it more like david.
> >
> > gNewSense is not just for the free software hacker "in-crowd". It's also
> > for me and for you and for Patrick and for the rest of the world.
> Is this your first distro?
> > But we need newbies to ask the questions that make them (and
> > us) understand software freedom better, to comment (and report bugs) from
> > a non-technical perspective and to help us improve the documentation so
> > that our goal will be easier to understand and our software will be more
> > accessible for new users.
> This is a strong point, I admit. The only thing is that we should not
> lie to them and let them know that this road will be more difficult.
> Even with this argumentation, my intention is still to help, so if you
> reafirm this, I will never do this (or something similar) again. Sorry
> for the inconvenience.
> Mu.
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