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Re: Use of GPL'd code with proprietary programs


From: Rui Miguel Seabra
Subject: Re: Use of GPL'd code with proprietary programs
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 23:59:48 +0100

On Wed, 2004-07-07 at 00:41 +0200, Alexander Terekhov wrote:
> Rui Miguel Seabra wrote:
> > On Wed, 2004-07-07 at 00:15 +0200, Alexander Terekhov wrote:
> > > No other conclusion makes sense. If it were not the case, then
> > > any program using the applications program interfaces (APIs) of an
> > > operating system could be considered a derivative work of that
> > > operating system.
> > 
> > Yes, that's right. That's why the glibc is LGPL and not GPL.

LOL, you're like a robot, continuously posting the same gibberish and
self references...

> http://groups.google.de/groups?selm=40239163.78134B8B%40web.de

Posted by yourself, no external references

> http://groups.google.de/groups?selm=x5d68stcln.fsf%40lola.goethe.zz

Baffled by this link. You poit to something that challenges your POV.

> http://groups.google.de/groups?selm=4023C5D4.522B4B7F%40web.de

Ah external references (some), let's see:

Previously Kastrup said:
  The whole CD is a derivative work in the form of an agglomeration.

Then you reply (standing high on the chair):
   You can't have it both ways. It's either a derivative work or 
a compilation (collective work)

Of course, what Kastrup meant was collective work (but used a confusing
choice of words).

Of course, the technical term is not derivative. But it's easy to get
confused trying to put it in ways 3 year olds would understand and you
still don't.

As to usage of Linux, Linus himself adds an explicit permission to link,
just before the GPL v2:

 NOTE! This copyright does *not* cover user programs that use kernel
 services by normal system calls - this is merely considered normal use
 of the kernel, and does *not* fall under the heading of "derived work".

So it was _his_ call to declare it outside the scope. Don't confuse an
explicit permission from the author with the default.

> > >                   And, under the exclusive right to prepare
> > > derivative works, the copyright owner of an operating system such
> > > as Microsoft Windows could control who was allowed to write
> > > programs for that operating system.
> >  
> > More and more. Right now Microsoft is trying to prevent creation of
> > GPL'ed software on Windows toolkits...
> 
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=40D7E7C0.64F74067%40web.de

DJB would be right, if he was right. But he isn't. A brilliant coder,
though I just appreciated style and not content.


Rui

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