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Re: Swiss govt agency declares Linux/OSS crapware "not a sufficientalter
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Alan Mackenzie |
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Re: Swiss govt agency declares Linux/OSS crapware "not a sufficientalternative to Microsoft products" |
Date: |
Mon, 9 Nov 2009 13:36:17 +0000 (UTC) |
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In gnu.misc.discuss Alexander Terekhov <terekhov@web.de> wrote:
> Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>> In gnu.misc.discuss Alexander Terekhov <terekhov@web.de> wrote:
>> > Geistiges Eigentum in German is what "intellectual property" in
>> > English you silly.
>> What an amazing assertion! Do you have any evidence to back that up?
> I've already provided the "evidence" silly.
Yes, as you frequently do, but I was thinking more about evidence
sensible.
>> "Geistig" does not mean "intellectual", except as a subsidiary
>> meaning. Its primary meaning is "spiritual" or "religious", or
>> perhaps "mental". As I said, "geistig" is cognate with "ghostly".
>> > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geistiges_Eigentum
>> > "Unter Geistigem Eigentum (auch intellektuelles Eigentum, engl.
>> > intellectual property) werden absolute Rechte an immateriellen
>> > Guetern verstanden.
>> Yes. "Immateriellen Guetern" = "ghostly goods" or "immaterial goods" or
>> "goods lacking any substance". It cannot be "intellectual property".
> Intellectual property is a form of intangible property you idiot.
Don't be imbecillic - intangible stuff isn't property.
> Stocks and bonds are other forms of intangible property.
No. Stocks and bonds are tangible - they're things which have a definite
, if varying, value and can be readily exchanged for that value in
money.
>> > Geistiges Eigentum wird daher auch als Immaterialgueterrecht
>> > bezeichnet. Inhaber eines solchen Rechts ist z. B. der Anmelder
>> > eines Patents oder der Schoepfer eines urheberrechtlichen Werks. "
>> Seems likely. But there's no "property" anywhere in all that. There's
>> copyright, which is an abstract right, not anything of any material
>> substance.
> All the euros on your bank account is your intangible property silly.
> No?
No. "in", not "on", and "are", not "is". All the euros in my bank
account are a number of metal disks 2.3 cm in diameter, if an
inconveniently large number, all perfectly tangible.
> regards,
> alexander.
--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).