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Re: HOWTO: lilypond-1.3.98 on windows32
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James Hammons |
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Re: HOWTO: lilypond-1.3.98 on windows32 |
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Wed, 25 Oct 2000 16:18:10 -0700 |
> ... Can it be automated? ...
The short answer to this is yes: Look at JBR's Windows install program. A
well written installer would be able to reconcile paths, write batch files,
etc., but unfortunately I don't have access to one.
> Once you have cygwin installed, which should be real easy, we can
> provide simple lily-install and lily-upgrade scripts. I'd
> hoped/expected for someone with a windows box to have written and
> supplied these. I haven't done that, mainly because I didn't have
> access to a windows box, and small mistakes will creep in.
Unfortunately, installation of Cygwin is not all that straightforward, and
you have absolutely *no* guarantee that anything will work how you expect it
to on a Unix system (rpm's for example). There are at least four different
options for configuring the initial install, all of which seem to throw a
monkey wrench into the works. In the meantime, however, I can test/correct
your scripts for efficacy if you'd like...
> Ok, now this is in now way fool-prove, but it should work for most
> people. You'll get all cygnus stuff in /Cygwin, and lilyponds in
> /Cygwin/usr/lilypond-x.y.z/. Why would that not work for you?
echo "Please add /Cygwin/usr/lilypond-1.3.$patchlevel/bin to your path"
Using this route you can't have multiple versions be usable at the same
time. That's why I use a batch file which adds the path to a different
version of lily on the fly. Other than that it's an OK setup (but certainly
not optimal--at least not on a Windows box IMO).
> > And I'm able to keep different versions alongside each other as
> > well using this setup, switching between them easily by executing the
> > appropriate batch file.
>
> Don't write batch files, use bash.
I think you misunderstood me. I run lily from a DOS box, and use a batch
file to set up paths/environmental variables in order to use a certain
version of lilypond (this avoids the above mentioned problem). Using a
batch file to actually *run* lilypond from Windows would be insane!
> What you'd like to do is fine, of course (even though I don't get
> it). But it would be good to suggest and provide uniform + debuggable
> install method for the newbie.
Well, you might "get it" if you had to work & develop all day on one. ;-)
I was going to volunteer to make a compact lilypond install for win32, but I
just don't have the time to support such a thing (I could always do as a
strictly advanced user, unsupported option). So, go for uniformity if you
must. I guess what it comes down to for me personally is that Unix on a
Unix box is beautiful but Unix grafted on to Windows is an ugly thing (I
certainly wouldn't trade the Slackware UMSDOS install that I have for
Cygwin!). At least at present. Don't get me wrong--I think being able to
use lily on a Windows box is great and the fact that you've been able to
make it work at all is nothing short of amazing! But ease of use is
definitely *not* one of Cygwin's virtues (again, at present--it may change
in the future)...
> Well, yesterday was a bad day for me, and all the windows troubles
> taking so much time just depressed me more. I would much more like it
> if you'd try to use my suggestions yourself, and help debug + document
> that. We'll get bug reports/help requests anyway.
Sorry to hear about your bad day, and sorry if my bitching and moaning
contributed to that. Anyway, for the sake of making things a bit easier
I'll give it a shot. But I still think that giving advanced users the
option of installing without Cygwin is a good idea. Just say that it's
unsupported and if they have troubles with it, install the way that you
suggest.
-- Shamus
I still don't care much for Cygwin, but I *love* that Cygwin1.dll! ;-p
- RE: HOWTO: lilypond-1.3.98 on win32, (continued)
- RE: HOWTO: lilypond-1.3.98 on win32, Jeff Henrikson, 2000/10/24
- Re: HOWTO: lilypond-1.3.98 on windows32, janneke, 2000/10/24
- Re: HOWTO: lilypond-1.3.98 on windows32, James Hammons, 2000/10/24
- Re: HOWTO: lilypond-1.3.98 on windows32, janneke, 2000/10/24
- Re: HOWTO: lilypond-1.3.98 on windows32, James Hammons, 2000/10/24
- Re: HOWTO: lilypond-1.3.98 on windows32, janneke, 2000/10/25
- Re: HOWTO: lilypond-1.3.98 on windows32, Han-Wen Nienhuys, 2000/10/25
- RE: HOWTO: lilypond-1.3.98 on windows32, Jeff Henrikson, 2000/10/25
- Re: HOWTO: lilypond-1.3.98 on windows32, Mats Bengtsson, 2000/10/25
- Re: HOWTO: lilypond-1.3.98 on windows32,
James Hammons <=
- Re: HOWTO: lilypond-1.3.98 on windows32, janneke, 2000/10/26
- Re: HOWTO: lilypond-1.3.98 on windows32, James Hammons, 2000/10/26
- Re: HOWTO: lilypond-1.3.98 on windows32, janneke, 2000/10/27
- RE: HOWTO: lilypond-1.3.98 on windows32, Jeff Henrikson, 2000/10/24
- RE: HOWTO: lilypond-1.3.98 on windows32, Han-Wen Nienhuys, 2000/10/24