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Re: (Really) Free Software future
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Svante Signell |
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Re: (Really) Free Software future |
Date: |
Mon, 14 Oct 2019 18:52:21 +0200 |
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On Mon, 2019-10-14 at 12:13 -0400, Paul Smith wrote:
> On Mon, 2019-10-14 at 12:07 +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
> > Perhaps we should divide free software into two groups: 1) Really
> > free software where Freedom 1 applies and 2) not-so-free software
> > where Freedom 1 does no longer applies.
> >
> > Here gnome and systemd are in the second kind.
>
> Both GNOME and systemd are fully free software that support all four
> freedoms, including freedom 1.
Still, I think we need to differentiate between Really Free Software
and Not-So-Free Software. Maybe even to add one more freedom: For
example adding a, non-commercial, non-lock-in, non-proprietary, *NIX
and KISS-friendly, clause. Software development is nowadays too vendor
driven (and purposely made complicated), ruling out contributions from
people not employed by companies working full-time.
> > Especially systemd, even if GPLed, is currently swallowing most of
> > free software excluding large groups of people to make
> > contributions.
>
> Neither excluding upstream contributions nor "swallowing" other free
> software projects violate any of the four freedoms.
>
> As long as you are able to run the program, access the source code,
> modify the source code as you like, and distribute both the original
> and your modifications to others, then your freedoms are preserved.
See above. A redefinition of free software is really needed,
independent of RMS being leader of GNU or not. And funding for Really
Free Software can be steered by FSF towards the goal of Really Free
Software, leaving non-complying companies out of funding. (whoever will
take the lead of FSF after RMS).
I'd really like RMS to reply on these issues, adding him to this email
recipients too.
Thanks!
- Re: Proposal to remove the off-topic, not free software related thoughtcrime accusations from the Guix project pages on GNU.ORG websitew, (continued)
- Re: Proposal to remove the off-topic, not free software related thoughtcrime accusations from the Guix project pages on GNU.ORG websitew, Jean Louis, 2019/10/10
- Re: Proposal to remove the off-topic, not free software related thoughtcrime accusations from the Guix project pages on GNU.ORG websitew, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2019/10/10
- Re: Proposal to remove the off-topic, not free software related thoughtcrime accusations from the Guix project pages on GNU.ORG websitew, Jean Louis, 2019/10/10
- Re: Proposal to remove the off-topic, not free software related thoughtcrime accusations from the Guix project pages on GNU.ORG websitew, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2019/10/12
- Re: Proposal to remove the off-topic, not free software related thoughtcrime accusations from the Guix project pages on GNU.ORG websitew, Richard Stallman, 2019/10/13
- (Really) Free Software future Was: Re: Proposal to remove the off-topic, ..., Svante Signell, 2019/10/14
- Re: (Really) Free Software future Was: Re: Proposal to remove the off-topic, ..., Jesse Gibbons, 2019/10/14
- Re: (Really) Free Software future Was: Re: Proposal to remove the off-topic, ..., Paul Smith, 2019/10/14
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- Re: (Really) Free Software future, Paul Smith, 2019/10/14
- Re: (Really) Free Software future, Alexander Vdolainen, 2019/10/14
- Re: (Really) Free Software future, دانیال بهزادی, 2019/10/14
- Re: (Really) Free Software future, Alexander Vdolainen, 2019/10/14
- Re: (Really) Free Software future, دانیال بهزادی, 2019/10/14
- Re: (Really) Free Software future, marinus.savoritias, 2019/10/14
- Re: (Really) Free Software future, Jesse Gibbons, 2019/10/14
- Re: (Really) Free Software future, Alexander Vdolainen, 2019/10/14
- Re: (Really) Free Software future, marinus.savoritias, 2019/10/14
- Re: (Really) Free Software future, Stefan Huchler, 2019/10/14