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Re: [Gnumed-devel] clin_health_issue - some thoughts
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J Busser |
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Re: [Gnumed-devel] clin_health_issue - some thoughts |
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Wed, 17 Nov 2004 01:27:20 -0800 |
At 6:40 PM +0100 11/14/04, Karsten Hilbert wrote:
I'll try to propose a structure this week
that implements the
defines_* fields in clin_narrative thereby consolidating
the
is_active/is_clinically_relevant business
if no one objects.
snip...
Further discussion welcome.
Use case for episodes
A nondiabetic student has a "spell" (note avoidance of
gnumed "episode") of possible hypoglycemia leading to
a series of visits, tests etc which can be clustered within one gnumed
episode. The spell may have presented with any among headaches,
confusion, feeling faint, diaphoresis, shakiness. Let us say it was
bad enough that it led to an ambulance being called with a capillary
glucose level of 2.5. The AOE becomes "hypoglycemia NYD" and
after evaluation it is determined that they were eating poorly prior
to exams and had some alcohol so the AOE becomes "hypoglycemia,
?fasting ?EtOH".
I am not sure whether to code a diagnosis - I am reluctant to
code an alcohol "disorder" and ICD9 otherwise offers me only
251 "disorders of pancreatic internal secretion" . The
patient is cautioned. They have had no recurrence in the 14 days since
the original spell including 2 followup visits. Maybe the gnumed
episode (or at least the clinical problem) is inactive. Maybe only
time will tell.
To bind these episodes as having some possible relationship to
each other, I would have to establish / create a
"clin_health_issue" which could inherit the most recent AOE.
This AOE might, depending on that second spell, be another
"hypoglycemia, ?fasting ?EtOH" but what if the second spell
had no incriminating causes? The second spell might have become
"hypoglycemia, r/o insulinoma" and might be reasonable to
put as a new gnumed episode.
If the clin_health_issue takes its description (name) from the
most recent episode's AOE, then the name given to the issue may have
become too narrow - maybe the student, now embarassed, is hiding a
drinking problem. Maybe clin_health_issue should just be
"hypoglycemia". Maybe the clin_health_issue, when it spans a
great many episodes, needs to be able to be given a name that
communicates somethign about the episodes as a whole, not just the AOE
of the very last episode.
If there are later further episodes, and we establish the
presence of an insulinoma, it can be reflected in the AOE and this can
"float" to become the description for the
"clin_health_issue" and presumably in a tree listing we
could see several episodes, each able to be displayed as named
somewhat differently on account of preserving the names of their
varied AOEs?
A more complicated one is coming...
- Re: [Gnumed-devel] clin_health_issue - some thoughts, (continued)
- Re: [Gnumed-devel] clin_health_issue - some thoughts, Karsten Hilbert, 2004/11/29
- [Gnumed-devel] Aggregating health issues on screen., Richard Terry, 2004/11/28
- Re: [Gnumed-devel] Aggregating health issues on screen., Karsten Hilbert, 2004/11/29
- Re: [Gnumed-devel] Aggregating health issues on screen. - Contextural Info, Richard Terry, 2004/11/29
- Re: [Gnumed-devel] Aggregating health issues on screen. - Contextural Info, Karsten Hilbert, 2004/11/29
- Re: [Gnumed-devel] Aggregating health issues on screen. - Contextual Info, J Busser, 2004/11/30
- Re: [Gnumed-devel] Aggregating health issues on screen. - Contextual Info, Karsten Hilbert, 2004/11/30
- Re: [Gnumed-devel] clin_health_issue - some thoughts, Karsten Hilbert, 2004/11/29
- Re: [Gnumed-devel] clin_health_issue - some thoughts, Karsten Hilbert, 2004/11/24
- Re: [Gnumed-devel] clin_health_issue - some thoughts, J Busser, 2004/11/24
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