Re: [GNUnet-developers] GNUnet mail ?

[Marcos D. Marado Torres]

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On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, Christian Grothoff wrote:

> > Any suggestions, Christian?

[...]

> Second, there is the aspect of protocol discussion and development.  A couple
> of week back I already discussed an improved chat protocol with a few people
> on IRC.  What I suggested was to start a WWW page to organize the discussion,
> list design goals and ideas, just like what was organized for the namespaces
> and directories.  Plan first, then hack.

I agree... Maybe a Wiki would help on that...
As I told previously on this mailing list, I think it should be awsome if
GNUnet had some "talker-like" chat system. If there's a wiki or such where
people can discuss and show their ideas about the "future" of gnunet-chat maybe
we'll get into that...

> Same goes for what you proposed for GNUnet mail.  I believe that running it
> over AFS does not make too much sense, the requirements are probably too
> different.  Which goes in line with what Benjamin said here, mail would
> possibly be a completely different protocol (just like chat).  I have thought
> about this before, but no conclusive complete design has emerged so far.  If
> someone wants to write up his ideas in HTML and put them up for discussion,
> please do so.  But we need some basic *design* document to start the
> discussion from.  Either way, this is not going to happen anytime soon.

Once again, I think that a wiki should be ideal for this. But, looking to the
cyurrent amount of GNUnet hackers, I wuold say that first GNUnet itself (Mantis
stuff and the other things you said), then gnunet-chat, and only than the mail
system. Or, perheaps, when the time comes there's more people developing GNUnet
(there's no problem in having hope! ;-)) and there can be parallel
development...

> Nevertheless, here are some features you may want to think about:
> anonymity/pseudonymity, economic viability (contribute => be able to use the
> system, spammers would have to contribute huge amounts of resources),
> mailinglists (how to distinguish from spammers? moderation? sign-on/sign-off
> protocol?, encrypted mail to mailinglists?), distributed storage (replicate
> E-mail to avoid loosing it and ensure availability), integration with
> existing mail clients (SMTP/POP/IMAP?), integration with existing mail
> protocols (do we want exit-nodes / entry nodes or do we leave that to
> mixminion?).
>
> Now, what of these do you want?  Why?  What other features do you need? How to
> do it?  What infrastructure do you need to do it (I smell DHTs, but you may
> have other ideas)?

Maybe that discussion should be left for the wiki/html/whatever?

> Christian

Best regards,
Mind Booster Noori

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