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Re: [GNUnet-developers] Chat System, again


From: Arne Wichmann
Subject: Re: [GNUnet-developers] Chat System, again
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:48:29 +0200
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begin  quotation  from Christian Grothoff (in <address@hidden>):
> On Wednesday 01 September 2004 23:24, Arne Wichmann wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > Is there anyone actively working on a more elaborated chat system for
> > Gnunet at the moment? I am just thinking to give out a practicum which
> > would be a start of such a thing.
> 
> Sorry for the late reply.  There is no active work on it at this point.  
> Nevertheless, there have been various ideas that I've been discussing with 
> people in terms of how it should be implemented.  So you should feel free to 
> give people such a project, but if you want to increase your chances that 
> it'll eventually end up in the main codebase you might want to give me a 
> chance at the description you're handing out (it might also be useful anyway 
> since I might be able to point out some general problems / ideas in terms of 
> how to use GNUnet 'properly').

begin  quotation  from Marcos D. Marado Torres (in <address@hidden>):
> On Thu, 2 Sep 2004, Arne Wichmann wrote:
> > Is there anyone actively working on a more elaborated chat system for
> > Gnunet at the moment? I am just thinking to give out a practicum which
> > would be a start of such a thing.
> 
> I have some ideas (nothing practical yet), but I suppose the best thing to do
> to discuss such implementation is to create a Wiki or something about it...

Ok, to start that up: I sent the following to my supervisor (short and
rough translation of a german text):

SEP: chat system for Gnunet

Gnunet is an anonumous p2p-protocol, which supplies an anonymizing
transport layer for applications based on it. Gnunet already implements a
file sharing protocol.

The big scope of the task is, to create an anonymizing chat system based on
the Gnunet network. In this SEP in a first step the protocol shall be
created and a limited prototype be implemented.

Users of the systems shall (optionally) have unique names, which
nevertheless shall be hard to retrace to an actual person.

Users shall be able to assemble in channels for group conversation. One to
one conversation shall be possible too.

The infrastructure of Gnunet shall be used to hide souces (and
destinations) of chat traffic.

The entire infrastructure shall be kept decentral, that means without any
central server.

Knowledge needed to start the project:
[skipped]

The following steps will be needed to complete the SEP:

- intensive work to understand Gnunet
- a detailled scetch of the general structure of the chat system protocol
  (with support of the supervisor)
- choice of the parts of the protocol which will be implemented
- implementation of the prototype

END (of text)

I have some ideas how to do such a thing. On the other hand I will be
delighted if a student has good ideas how to do it, so I will not be in the
front line there.

Still it would be interesting to hear your ideas. ;) It would reduce the
need to have good ones of my own. :-}

cu

AW
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