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Re: [GNUnet-developers] question on copyrights in gnURL / cURL


From: ng0
Subject: Re: [GNUnet-developers] question on copyrights in gnURL / cURL
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 19:13:55 +0000

Christian Grothoff transcribed 4.8K bytes:
> On 09/13/2017 08:32 PM, ng0 wrote:
> > No matter if we end up with wget2 or stick with gnURL,
> > the code on gnURL is out there. However since I picked
> > up its maintenance I touched many many files, but only
> > added one copyright header in a new file.
> 
> That should be fine.
> 
> > FSF licensing is a small team, so maybe we have someone
> > here with a little bit of expertise: I think I need to
> > add copyright header (or at the very least a name+email
> > and a way to display that this file was changed within
> > gnURL) by now. 
> 
> I don't see why, and while I am not a lawyer, I'm pretty sure what I say
> here and below is sound.  cURL itself does not credit every contributor
> in every file, they list them in docs/THANKS.  GNU says that every
> source file should have a copyright header, but the cURL ones do
> already, so no need to change that. You said you added one for a new
> file, so great, you're done with that!
>  > With the license cURL uses:
> > 
> > Would I be allowed to just grep the "cURL" in the header
> > of all files in cURL or simply within the files I touched?
> 
> I would leave the cURL license headers completely untouched,
> even if you touched the files.  It just muddles the diff.
> 
> > And: is it required at all? I have tasks to do which are
> > way more fun (and necessary) than git grep + sed'ing through
> > an ever-growing fork.
> 
> Exactly, I see no reason why you should do this.
> 
> > For example neomutt, an effort to add new features and
> > more programmatical changes to mutt has kept all the
> > original headers and added no copyright notes (no header name
> > changes, no copyright lines, etc) (GPL2 licenses iirc).
> > One could argue where a copyright'able contribution
> > begins. 
> 
> But copyright*able* does not mean that you must claim it, it just means
> you _could_. And attribution is again separate, under the cURL license I
> don't see that you'd even have a right to require attribution, and you
> certainly have no duty to provide it in any particular form either.
> Besides, Git is good enough for that for anyone who really wants to know.
> 
> > I just have a questionmark on the amount of
> > changes I have in gnURL compared to cURL based on the
> > git commits and if it requires any statement somewhere
> > (not everyone reads git logs).
> > 
> > At its core all the changes I made are with the build system
> > of cURL and how it behaves, renamed files, renamed documents,
> > renamed occurences, references of files, and some more
> > renames and fixes still pending.
> 
> Sure, but none of this requires you to make any further changes just
> because of copyright.
> 

This matches up with what I assumed and partly knew.
Thanks for taking the time to clear it up!
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