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Re: [GNUnet-developers] clang formatting discussion


From: Schanzenbach, Martin
Subject: Re: [GNUnet-developers] clang formatting discussion
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 23:25:15 +0200


> On 17. Apr 2019, at 21:08, Christian Grothoff <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
> Signed PGP part
> From private discussion with Martin where I pointed out a few style
> issues I didn't like and Martin either created fixes or determined that
> what I wanted was not (yet) possible...
> (forwarding with permission)...
> 
> On 4/17/19 3:58 PM, Schanzenbach, Martin wrote:
>> The thing is clang-format is built with the most common styles in
>> mind (including GNU). It does not cover every little corner case and
>> does not want to in order to keep it simple (see
>> https://clang.llvm.org/docs/ClangFormatStyleOptions.html#adding-additional-style-options).
> 
> Yes, I did read that in the manual as well. Still, in the "worst case"
> we could consider patching it ourselves, but it would have to be a
> reasonably painful issue to justify that.
> 
>> So either we move towards a tool-based solution (idk any other good
>> besides clang-format) and sacrifice such little issues like odd
>> formatting in the case of yoda expressions or just leave it as is.
> Well, the list of sacrifices (= styles generated by the tool that I
> personally don't like) is still a bit long. Regardless, I should start
> by saying that I appreciate your efforts at making it shorter, and I am
> still optimistic that this can be fixed. In the past we tried to get
> there with GNU indent (even patching it!), but ultimately it didn't
> quite work out. My feeling is that GNU indent didn't work in part
> because it ultimately required installing indent with our patches, and
> also in part because it didn't integrate with editors nicely.
> 
> On that last point:
> 
> There is still a few things we need to figure out (others on
> gnunet-developers might weigh in here). First of all, how compatible is
> this actually going to be with editing in Emacs and other editors?
> 

I thought I said that in the beginning? Most editors have plugins:

emacs: 
https://llvm.org/svn/llvm-project/cfe/trunk/tools/clang-format/clang-format.el
(n)vim: https://github.com/rhysd/vim-clang-format
vscode: native
sublime: https://packagecontrol.io/packages/Clang%20Format

> Sure, running an external tool afterwards is always possible, but does
> this integrate with Emacs to the point that the formatting is
> applied/conveniently apply-able during editing? (Say what I do right
> now: press Tab and have the indentation match what clang will do? Or can
> we adjust the existing Emacs style (and other editors!) to match 100%
> what clang formatter generates?)
> 
> Naturally, some of the style issues that remain (like the impossibility
> to force a break after function arguments even if the line is short even
> without one) may feed into this.
> 
> 
> 
> 

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