[GNUnet-developers] Review of the new GNUnet website

[Fabian Gerlach]

Found & spend time to go through the whole discussion so far.
I've transfered most of it briefly into https://pads.ccc.de/gnunet-website
and I also gave feedback in the pad to at least most of the transfered points.
Feedback to and usage of the most recent discussion status in the pad welcome.

Cheers,
Fabian

--- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
Von: sva <address@hidden>
Datum: 30.06.2019 18:22:03
An: address@hidden
Betreff: Re: [GNUnet-developers] Review of the new GNUnet website

> Thanks for your valuable contributions! Not the next part:
>
> It took me a bit longer, as two things imho need to be discussed,
> especially with those people that originally made those texts last year
> (where I wasn't around).
>
> To make that commenting easier I pasted the not-clear parts into the
> file as html-comments and pasted the whole document here:
> https://pads.ccc.de/gnunet-website
>
> Just search for "proposal from Fabian Gerlach" to find the sections.
> I
> also bolded them for your convenience.
>
>
> It's also everything below, but maybe a bit easier to see in the pad :)
>
>
>
> On 6/26/19 9:18 PM, Fabian Gerlach wrote:
>
> > More appropriate:
> >
> > Regarding https://gnunet.org/ , 2nd section, 3rd sub section:
> > 7 - Change "GNUnet is made for an open society" to "GNUnet
> is made for a free society"
>
> I made: "free and open society"
>
> > Regarding https://gnunet.org/ , 3rd section "The Internet of tomorrow
> needs GNUnet today", "Imagine..." sub section:
> > 8 - Keep the hole analogy, and replace the theft analogy with a surveillance
> camera analogy. Suggestion:
> > "The conventional Internet is currently like a system of roads
> with deep potholes and surveillance cameras all over the place. Even if you
> still can use the roads (e.g. send emails, or browse websites) your vehicle
> might gets damaged. And the surveillance cameras will create a movement 
> profile
> about your life: They recognize your car license plate, track you everywhere
> you drive, and save this information in a central data base."
> > By replacing the incorrect theft analogy (copying is not theft) with
> an analogy, which is not only correct but also practically more invasive
> for every day people (it affects directly everyone using the infrastructure,
> no matter if normal person or person of special interest like whistleblowers),
> this section becomes more correct and striking.
>
> => this one we need to discuss.
> I added it as a html-comment in the according section on the site.
>
> My 2cents: The database is (usually) not central, and the thief is
> something much more "dangerous" than "just being tracked",
> esp for a
> "normal" person.
>
> Other opinions?
>
>
> > Regarding https://gnunet.org/ , 3rd section "The Internet of tomorrow
> needs GNUnet today", "The Internet is broken" sub section:
> > 9 - change text " Protocols from Ethernet and IP to BGP and X.509
> PKI are insecure by default: protecting against address forgery, routers
> learning metadata, or choosing trustworthy CAs is nontrivial and sometimes
> impossible.
> >
> > GNUnet provides privacy by design, improving addressing, routing, naming
> and content distribution in a technically robust manner - as opposed to ad-hoc
> designs in place today."
> > as follows:
> > "The Internet is not designed with security in mind: The network
> generally learns too much about users; it has insecure defaults and high
> complexity; and it is centralized. That makes it very vulnerable for multiple
> attacks massively threatening our freedom.
> >
> > GNUnet is built "privacy by design" and "distributed
> by design". This improves addressing, routing, naming and content distribution
> in a technically robust manner."
> > By this change the explanation in what way the internet is broken becomes
> more convincing and generally understandable.
>
> First part: Not sure if the new text makes it better - at this stage we
> are still aiming at techies that should know what IP and BGP is, and
> therefore get a clearer picture, I believe.
>
> Second part: Is "distributed by design" any existing term? Then
> I'd add
> your change.
>
> Group, please discuss and/or share opinions!
>
>
> > Regarding https://gnunet.org/ , 3rd section "The Internet of tomorrow
> needs GNUnet today", "Decentralization is hard" sub section:
> > 10 - Simplify the 1st section, the 2nd section is already fine. Suggestion:
> > "Instead of sharing common components and tools for building P2P
> systems, every P2P project seems to re-invent the wheel. That highens effort
> and number of vulnerabilities."
> > By this change you convey same content with less words and in easier
> language. The details are already covered in the 2nd section, no need for
> mentioning them in 1st and 2nd section.
>
> Ack, changed it that way :)
>
>
>
> > Regarding https://gnunet.org/ , 3rd section "The Internet of tomorrow
> needs GNUnet today", "Metadata is exposed" sub section:
> > 11 - Add a short 1 sentence introduction before the current 1st sentence
> of the sub section: "Metadata is just as revealing as the actual content;
> and it gets exposed on the internet.". Or more personal: "Your
> metadata is just as revealing as the actual content; and it gets exposed
> on the internet.".
>
> => took the "personal one" :) Thanks!
>
> > The result is that the sub section looks like this: "Metadata/Your
> metadata is just as revealing as the actual content; and it gets exposed
> on the internet. Although transport encryption is increasingly being deployed
> on the Internet, it still reveals data that can threaten democracy: the 
> identities
> of senders and receivers, the times, frequency and the volume of communication
> are all still revealed.
> > By this change the point is brought across more striking and easier.
> People get "It's not 'just metadata'" and "I'm exposed".
>
> In the source there is this comment:
>   <!-- Looks like a weak argumentation to me:
>           which <a
>
> href="https://www.freehaven.net/anonbib/cache/websitefingerprinting-pets2016.pdf";>enables
>           reverse-engineering pages visited via website
>           fingerprinting</a>.
>           -->
> => what do you (unknown editor) mean with this?
>
>
> > Regarding https://gnunet.org/ , bottom section, law information:
> > 12 - Sum up the years: "2015-2019", instead of "2015,
> 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019"
> > Both is correct, but the suggestion is shorter and conveys the same
> information in a more clear way
>
> => done by someone else ;)
>
> > 13 - Rather use the copyleft sign 🄯 / (ɔ)
> > Judging by https://gnunet.org/philosophy of the old website that would
> fit more to the GNUnet project
>
> => dont know how to edit this, can someone please give a hand?
>
>
> Thats from me,
>
> cheers & thanks,
> sva.
>
>
>
>
>
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