Re: [Gnustep-marketing] GNUstep Foundation

[MJ Ray]

On 2004-10-02 00:36:24 +0100 Gregory John Casamento 
<address@hidden> wrote:

> We are only considering the possibility of a Foundation, no one has 
> said it's
> the "Final Solution".   I'm simply not sure that having the FSF 
> handle the
> funds is the best way to go, that's all. [...]

Nor am I, but I think we should find out before proposing particular 
forms. I think we agree on that?

I was brought into this thread part-way through and told at one point 
that the other discussion was on a private list. People already seemed 
to be rallying to support the Foundation: I was just trying to find 
out its basic details, as it's a topic I know something about.

Soon, it seemed that the only thing that had been taken was a decision 
to form a Foundation. All the aims and methods seemed to become 
nebulous. Every other poster seemed to have a new idea. This looked 
like a balls-up in progress. Try reading it from the marketing list 
archive and see how it looks.

Now it's finally clear that no decision has been taken. Please can we 
start gathering the information and discuss the form later? Having 
people guessing important details is not very useful, like programming 
and guessing half the keywords is not very fun.

What I find offensive is being told that I'm writing with my arse, or 
that it's just inane chatter. It's really nice to be valued, but this 
isn't a discussion where I'm valued. Well, tough. I'm still going to 
act in my own interests and having GNUstep not balls-up supporter 
donations is one of those interests.

> I find it impossible to hold a normal conversation with you [...]

As far as I know, we've never met. Email is ill-suited to normal 
conversation, especially intercontinental. Call me at work next week 
if you want to try a conversation (not Wed or Thu), tell me your 
jabber details and times or maybe I'll see you at FOSDEM next year.

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