Re: Objective-C bugs and GCC releases

[Helge Hess]

On Jan 25, 2005, at 17:35, Steven Bosscher wrote:
> So is C/C++, so perhaps you can convince the people pushing ObjC++
> that your argument is valid.  We have already tried that without luck.

I don't understand what you are saying. For one you seem to agree with 
me that one shall not break others code and even push that opionion 
towards ObjC++ guys, but at the same time this is done by C/C++ 
contributors to ObjC.
That doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to me.

BTW: I perfectly know that some people from Apple are not really of 
great help here and that threads on the ObjC++ topic seem to get to 
into a rather childish flame war. I hope that this thread doesn't turn 
that way.

> > I think thats pretty much the usual way how all projects work.
> It is also how GCC works.

Obviously not.

> > Its a matter of fairness with the other project members.
> You seem to imply some project members treat objc unfair, but you just
> so miss the point.

My understanding of the situation, please correct me if I'm wrong:
Someone is working in the C frontend to improve it, he needs to change 
some internal structures or functions.

So if he is good-willed, he will first remember that there is something 
like ObjC in his project and consider that in his design. Then he will 
need to do some minor work to adopt the ObjC hooks into the C frontend 
to fix the issue. This is little work for him because he is already 
deeply into the topic and ObjC is a minor addition to C. If he _really_ 
has no time, he will at least inform the ObjC maintainer of the 
required changes due to his changes.

If he is not, he will just leave the ObjC frontend laying around, 
postboning the responsibility for _his_ changes in one part of the 
software to the maintainers of another part of the software which will 
need 50 times longer to fix this issue because the need to get into the 
changes.
Thats not very helpful behaviour, but well ...

best regards,
  Helge
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