Re: STS Template Engine

[Helge Hess]

On 25. Jul 2005, at 23:10 Uhr, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote:
> I wasn't aware that WO was such a lithe and lissom animal once. it  
> has put on a lot weight since then (Java disease?). This: http:// 
> developer.apple.com/documentation/WebObjects/Reference/API/ 
> index.html is definitely a truck. (and yeah, you omitted EOF, could  
> you install WO without it those days?)

Of course I omitted EOF since its not required for templating (nor  
for any other basic WO operation). AFAIK the only class which refers  
EOF is WODisplayGroup and this can easily be omitted.

The Java reference contains all the other WO related frameworks like  
D2W etc, those however are not part of the WebObjects _framework_  
(not the whole product). (addition it contains additional classes  
necessary due to the Java language, but actually not that much).

The full WO product consists of a lot of different frameworks (aka  
packages in Java WO), but those are rather cleanly designed and stack  
up pretty nicely.

On 26. Jul 2005, at 08:37 Uhr, Stefan Urbanek wrote:
> What about WO dependencies? ...

The WO framework classes required here have no dependencies but  
Foundation (since KVC is now in Foundation).

> "stripping down ..." does not seem like out-of-the-box solution...

Hu? Just build a library which contains only the classes you require.  
Of course you may need one or the other additional class for WO  
framework purposes (like WOContext), but this probably makes more  
sense than rewriting the templating from scratch!

> Nothing against WO - each tool has its purpose...

WO is a nice framework which can be applied to many different  
purposes, not a monolithic "tool". Its actually quite beautiful for  
templating all kinds of files.

Presenting WO as a bloated tool is simply incorrect.

Now I wouldn't recommend it for stuff like [str replaceString:...  
withString:...] but as soon as you start with conditions, repetitions  
and stuff, you are very likely reinventing the wheel. And indeed the  
existing wheel is kick-ass ;-)

Greets,
  Helge
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