Re: GNUstep.org website redesign proposal

[Sebastian Reitenbach]

Hi,
 
On Thursday, January 2, 2014 04:04 CET, Gregory Casamento <address@hidden> 
wrote: 
 
> Hey guys,
> 
> I realize this isn't a direct comment on the proposed redesign...  The
> current proposal is nice, but also you should have a look at how Riccardo
> redid gap.  http://gap.nongnu.org

I've seen it already some days ago, and I answered on that in the smaller
round before, but will repeat, with some more comments:

What I like is the top menu, but this huge blob of text below it, is a bit too 
heavy.
The rest of the front page looks fairly "boxed", and I don't think that a 
link to every app on GAP has to be on the main page. 
Further, the news section is at the bottom, you have to scroll down to
get aware of it. 

Also the FTP page he changed, the app icon now is in the middle of those
two horizontal rules just looks a bit displaced, and wastes a lot of space. 
There is also a link behind it, for no reason.
Also the links as buttons look odd,
especially when you look at it with a small screen, how they do line up.

As I wrote before in a smaller round, as an active GAP member, 
and there aren't that many, I find it a bit odd Riccardo experimenting
with the life website, but not announcing it before to the GAP members. 
I would have liked to give input for that pages and style,
if he would have presented a proposal about his new design, and 
some concept behind it. 

Sebastian


> 
> GC
> 
> 
> On Jan 1, 2014, at 5:04 PM, Doug Simons
> <address@hidden<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'address@hidden');>>
> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Dec 31, 2013, at 5:09 AM, Markus Hitter wrote:
> 
> Am 31.12.2013 02:09, schrieb Sebastian Reitenbach:
> 
> https://www.l00-bugdead-prods.de/index7.html
> 
> 
> First, big compliments for the Dock implementation. It works flawlessly
> in a mouse/trackpad driven environment.
> 
> Hovever, menus at the bottom of a web pages / windows are very unusual
> (the real thing is at the bottom of the screen, which is something
> different), so it took me a second visit to see it at all. Having a
> standard menu in the upper region suggested there's no need to search
> for navigation.
> 
> 
> I agree that it's unexpected to have a navigation control at the bottom of
> the window, so many people will miss it. I was totally impressed by the
> implementation, though -- awesome job! And I agree with Sebastian's points
> about making the site look modern, cool, and appealing to Mac users. So why
> not move the dock to the left side? It's not the Mac OS X default, but a
> lot of people move their docks to the left so it will still be very
> recognizable to Mac users. And it's a common location for secondary web
> navigation controls, so even though it may look slightly odd to non-Mac
> visitors they should be able to use it too.
> 
> There remains the issue that it might still be slightly less obvious to
> folks using touch devices. Maybe it would be possible to add titles below
> the icons for those devices?
> 
> Overall, this looks to me like a vast improvement over the current site! I
> think the text of the first paragraph still needs work to focus it more
> tightly: drop any mention of NeXT and OpenStep, which is only a distraction
> now, and make Cocoa more prominent. Maybe something like this for the first
> paragraph:
> 
> GNUstep is an open-source framework modeled on Apple's Cocoa frameworks to
> provide a cross-platform API to make it easy to create sophisticated modern
> software. Ports of OS X software to other platforms and new software
> development in Objective-C are both supported, with or without a graphical
> user interface.
> 
> (And then be sure to include the obligatory trademark disclaimers in the
> fine print at the bottom of the page to keep Apple's lawyers from getting
> excited!)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Doug
> 
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