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Re: [gpsd-dev] ✘CentOS 8.1


From: Gary E. Miller
Subject: Re: [gpsd-dev] ✘CentOS 8.1
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 10:50:37 -0700

Yo Jason!

On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 07:18:21 -0400
"Jason Azze" <address@hidden> wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019, at 11:52 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote:
> > Yo All!
> > 
> > I found a CentOS 8.1 vdi image.  The latest and greatest CentOS is
> > using linux kernel 3.10!  That is no longer supported!  
> 
> A few things...
> 
> I'd be skeptical about the vdi you found. CentOS 8.0.1905 hasn't been
> released yet from what I can see from the CentOS build wiki. RHEL 8.0
> just came out last month.

My mistake.  CentOS 7-1810

https://www.osboxes.org/centos/

> DNF is now the preferred package manager, though yum will still work.

But how do I install scons?  That is all I need.

> The kernels in the Enterprise Linux family are not old and out of
> support.

Really?  3.10 went EOL in November 2017.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel#Releases_3.x.y

Many studies conclusively show older kernels bit rot as people not names
Linus patch them.

I do not count what RHEL does as "support".  Their "support" is "deny
everything".  Or maybe it is that they emotionally support slothful
customers that hate updates.

> The entire point of the EL endeavour is that fixes get back
> ported from upstream.

And we know how well that does not work.  Linus flat refuses to mark
any patch as a fix.  I share his disdain for those that think they
can tell the difference, or effectively backport.

> That's the value that Red Hat is adding. Now,
> we can disagree about whether that's actually "value".

I do see that"value".  Customers never need to update because they are
always on the "latest" release.

I gave up trying to support RHEL customers a long time ago.  I'd tell
the customer exactly where their kernel and packages are broken.  And
what releases had the needed fixes.

Customer would be told by RHEL that I did not know what I was tlaking
about because the latest release was in us.  Big fat scam.

But off topic for gpsd.  How do I install scons?

RGDS
GARY
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