[Groff] UTP project

[Manas Laha]

Larry Kollar wrote:

> In any case, I'd like to wrap UTP up so we can start updating it.

But the transcription phase still needs some doing: some chapters need
marking up and a few have yet to be transcribed. I'm willing to mark
up/transcribe one more chapter but I've to be told which one.

Meg McRoberts and I have been having been having a little discussion
about how much effort we should be spending on proofing and editing the
transcribed UTP. I'm posting our conversation below and inviting
comments from all the others.

- Manas Laha 
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Conversation between Meg McRoberts and Manas Laha about editing the
transcribed UTP:

> Meg McRoberts wrote:
>
> I agree that we should verify that all the text is here and such before
> moving on.  But originally we talked about a consistency edit and all,
> and I just wonder how much that really matters.  I am certainly willing
> to press on with that, just asking the question...
>
> It would be nice if we could get the HTML to build for the book and I
> haven't looked at the details of what the problems are.  It sounds like
> most of the problems are with the tools, not the source, but it's
> possible
> that some source modifications will be required for the HTML.
>
> And yes, perhaps we should share this discussion with the whole group.
> If the consensus is that we want to push on with the fine points, I
> don't object.
>
> meg
>
> --- Manas Laha <address@hidden> wrote:
> > I agree we should move on with updating UTP. But since we've taken all
> > this trouble to transcribe the original, should we not spend some more
> > effort to see that the transcription has no serious errors (say, a
> > paragraph omitted or something)? I'm not much bothered about whether
> > "our" UTP looks like the original.
> >
> > BTW, I should have posted a copy to the list of my reply to your first
> > message, but I seem to have goofed up. If I have your permission I
> shall
> > post this little exchange between us to the list.
> >
> > - Manas Laha
> >
> >
> > Meg McRoberts wrote:
> > >
> > > Manas Laha wrote:
> > >
> > > > Meg,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for responding. The list has been rather quiet about UTP lately!
> > >
> > > Yes, we do seem to have lost some momentum...
> > >
> > > > I was wondering if we (the transcribers) could "cross read" each other's
> > > > chapters to spot errors, would that make your editing task easier?
> > >
> > > I suppose this would speed up the progress -- I haven't done as much as I
> > > had planned and I apologize.
> > >
> > > I do have one idea to throw out -- just for your consideration; we may 
> > > decide
> > > it isn't a good idea.  What I have read so far has been pretty good.  I 
> > > found
> > > a couple tool/formatting problems, and we do have an inconsistency in how
> > > the two-column simple tables are typeset.  I am wondering how much more 
> > > effort
> > > we should expend on perfecting the old UTP.  We have the scanned PDF 
> > > files, but
> > > I don't think this book maps to any *roff that is currently available for
> > > any system.  What we really need is a revised book for groff, and perhaps 
> > > we
> > > should move to shut down this phase of the UTP fairly quickly so we can 
> > > move on.
> > >
> > > I will get back to editing as soon as I get my Linux box back 
> > > up(hopefully this
> > > weekend).  But how thorough do we want to be in recreating the text for 
> > > the old
> > > book?
> > >
> > > meg