Re: [Groff] Permissible characters for hyphenation

[John Gardner]

>
> I am, for one, sure that the HTML standard committee will someday
> manage to add markup for shitty baby napkins.  The palms and
> beaches of their happenings seem to promote this direction. ^.^


I, uh, think something might've been lost in translation. :|

On 30 May 2016 at 23:20, Steffen Nurpmeso <address@hidden> wrote:

> Hello!
>
> John Gardner <address@hidden> wrote:
>  |> I have been convinced that soft hyphen is a control character and
>  |> not something visual,
>  |
>  |Almost correct.
>  |
>  |Soft hyphens *do* describe potential breaking points, but they only
> become
>  |visible when surrounding text is broken.
>  |
>  |For instance, assume this line had soft-hyphens every 20 characters:
>  |
>  |Methionylalanylthreonylserylarginylglycylalanylserylarginylcysteinylproly
>  |
>  |When wrapped, this is how it would look:
>  |
>  |Methionylalanylthre-
>  |onylserylarginylgly-
>  |cylalanylserylargin-
>  |ylcysteinylproly
>  |
>  |Without soft-hyphens (and when wrapped to 20 columns), it'd look like
> this
>  |instead:
>  |
>  |Methionylalanylthre
>  |onylserylarginylgly
>  |cylalanylserylargin
>  |ylcysteinylproly
>  |
>  |Here, hyphenation becomes a lot less apparent.
>
> Yes.  For display purposes however i think U+00AD can't be used
> directly, but will be replaced by the renderer to either nothing,
> if no wrap is to be applied at the character position, or
> something appropriate, like ASCII hyphen-minus or some extended
> Unicode "Pd" letter, of which there are some (e.g., U+058A
> ARMENIAN HYPHEN, U+1400 CANADIAN SYLLABICS HYPHEN, and more).
>
>  |I should also add that I don't know how well-supported this behaviour is
>  |between different platforms. I remember reading that some browsers
>  |displayed the hyphen between broken word boundaries, while others didn't.
>  |Web authors were encouraged to use the more semantic and reliable <wbr/>
>  |element <https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/wbr>
>  |instead.
>
> I am, for one, sure that the HTML standard committee will someday
> manage to add markup for shitty baby napkins.  The palms and
> beaches of their happenings seem to promote this direction. ^.^
>
> --steffen
>
>