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Re: [groff] [patch] modernize -T ascii rendering of opening single quote
From: |
Bjarni Ingi Gislason |
Subject: |
Re: [groff] [patch] modernize -T ascii rendering of opening single quote |
Date: |
Sun, 17 Feb 2019 22:29:46 +0000 |
User-agent: |
Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-12-10) |
The expression "modernize" in this context has a manipulative
character. Who wants to be against "modernization"!
This issue is about a change, ( \(oq to ' for ascii and latin1 only )
which is
1) a falsification, namely changing directional quotes to undirectional
ones.
2) making a distinction between directional and undirectional quotes
impossible in the output (\(oq...\(cq and '...' become the same but are meant
to be different).
3) a regression, as the \(oq (quoteleft) is then no longer displayed as
usual.
`...' in a roff-file is now the the same as \(oq...\(cq.
There is a proposition where there is a choice between for or against.
That has a manipulative character, so that people are made to believe
there is no other choice(s). Nobody has mentioned any other choice on
the list!
The issue makes no distinction between writing and displaying.
When \(oq is written, it is meant to be something else than '
(quotesingle or quoteright).
When ` is written, it is meant to be that (left single quote).
There is a distinction between pure text and text with typographic
characters and formatting commands.
People that don't like or tolerate ` as a left single quote in the
output, may change the output for themselves (using a filter or a
private tmac-file), and should, may not change it for others.
From groff(1): The groff system has all features of the classical
roff, but adds many extensions.
The true reason for the change is not revealed (what exactly did the
original "complainer" say?).
--
Bjarni I. Gislason
- Re: [groff] [patch] modernize -T ascii rendering of opening single quote, (continued)
- Re: [groff] [patch] modernize -T ascii rendering of opening single quote, Jeff Conrad, 2019/02/21
- Re: [groff] [patch] modernize -T ascii rendering of opening single quote, Mike Bianchi, 2019/02/21
- Re: [groff] [patch] modernize -T ascii rendering of opening single quote, Ingo Schwarze, 2019/02/21
- Re: [groff] [patch] modernize -T ascii rendering of opening single quote, Ingo Schwarze, 2019/02/23
- Re: [groff] [patch] modernize -T ascii rendering of opening single quote, Ralph Corderoy, 2019/02/02
- Re: [groff] [patch] modernize -T ascii rendering of opening single quote, Ingo Schwarze, 2019/02/02
- Re: [groff] [patch] modernize -T ascii rendering of opening single quote, Colin Watson, 2019/02/04
- Re: [groff] [patch] modernize -T ascii rendering of opening single quote, Ralph Corderoy, 2019/02/18
- Re: [groff] [patch] modernize -T ascii rendering of opening single quote, Ingo Schwarze, 2019/02/20
Re: [groff] [patch] modernize -T ascii rendering of opening single quote, Anthony J. Bentley, 2019/02/01
Re: [groff] [patch] modernize -T ascii rendering of opening single quote,
Bjarni Ingi Gislason <=
Re: [groff] [patch] modernize -T ascii rendering of opening single quote, Ralph Corderoy, 2019/02/18
Re: [groff] [patch] modernize -T ascii rendering of opening single quote, Jeff Conrad, 2019/02/17