Re: [PATCH v2] man*/: ffix (migrate to `MR`)

[Alejandro Colomar]

Hi Branden,

On 2023-08-16 05:55, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
[...]

>> Would you mind sending an updated commit message?
> 
> I did, but you found a fresh problem, this time with part 1, so I guess
> we'll be going to v4!  :-O  Also I'm going to make an attempt to drive
> the part 1 change with sed as well.  Just to see if I can, and to see
> what happens.

Great!  (As long as it's kept as a separate patch.  ;)

> 
>> Heh, I noticed some weirdness about it, but it happened to be after a
>> -rCHECKSTYLE, so it seemed like it could be some improvements that you
>> had applied upstream to CHECKSTYLE.  =3 definitely made sense to that
>> register.
> 
> GNU troff(1) does not raise a diagnostic if a register assignment is
> followed by garbage.  That's disappointing.
> 
> Filed.  https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?64559

Nice.

> 
>>> Please double-check for that before pushing to kernel.org.
>>
>> Please send one that I don't need to modify.  I don't like modifying
>> other's stuff, in case I break it.  :)
> 
> Did v3 2/2 show up for you without quoted-printable damage?

Yup.  I assume Thunderbird is not messing with the source of
the received email.  I bet it's neomutt(1), even if I'd expect
it's not the kind of program that would do that.

Please send a hand-crafted encrypted copy in an attached file,
where no program can mess with it.

> 
>>>>>> and against man-pages(7) recommendations.
>>>>
>>>> Well, we should update those to use MR.
>>>
>>> And man(7) too, I guess.  What do you think?
>>
>> I want to kill that page.  Please have a look at it, take anything
>> good that it has for groff_man{,_style}(7), and ping me when I
>> should sharpen the scythe.  ;)
> 
> Ok, will do.
> 
> If the page is withdrawn, I expect distributors will need to manage the
> man.7 page using Debian's "alternatives" mechanism or similar; if
> groff_man.7 is installed, man.7 should be a symlink to it.  If
> mandoc_man.7 is installed, likewise.  If both are installed, the
> distributor needs to select a default preference.
> 
> I expect you will want to emphasize this in the release announcement,
> when the time comes.

Sure.  6.6 will be a big release.  Maybe there are many bug-fix patches
to it...  like 6?

> 
> This already needs to happen with soelim(1) and roff(7), but it doesn't,
> exactly; Debian renames mandoc's versions of the former to msoelim(1)
> and the latter to mandoc_roff(1).  Termux simply throws groff's versions
> away and installs mandoc's versions as soelim(1) and roff(7).
> 
> I also use Termux.

This reminds me I need to ping for the replacement of my Linux phone,
which has issues, and I can't receive calls.  :|

>  Imagine my surprise when I upgraded to groff 1.23.0
> on my tablet and brought up roff(7).  I was expecting to see myself in
> the mirror, and what should greet me but the visage of Ingo Schwarze!

Huh!  Under what criteria do they choose mandoc_roff(7) as /the/ roff(7)?

> 
> Unnerving, no?

It is!

Cheers,
Alex

> 
> Regards,
> Branden

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