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Re: Bootstrapping


From: Mark . Burgess
Subject: Re: Bootstrapping
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 16:40:42 +0100 (MET)


On 19 Feb, Luke A. Kanies wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, John Sechrest wrote:
> 
>> Nate Campi <address@hidden> writes:
>>
>>  % A surprising amount of configuration could be shared across sites,
>>  % enabling networks to get up quickly, and run better. Consultants could
>>  % come into networks they've never been on before, but quickly solve
>>  % problems and roll out new services, since he/she already understands the
>>  % cfengine setup.
>>
>>  Yes, but to do this, the cfengine community needs to start abstracting
>>  the (global practices) from the (local issues).
> 
> That's a really good idea, but I'm not totally convinced this will be very
> easy with cfengine.  Mark and I have had long discussions about this, but
> my opinion has not changed:  It is very difficult to use cfengine for
> abstraction, which means it's very difficult to create
> location-independent cfengine configurations.

I do not fully agree with this. We now have "methods" that allow
considerable abstraction potential. Also, the other wish list
items are gradually being added... Don't write this off. One reason
why this has taken a long time is that there has been little feedback
from users on this. If these features are to be absorbed and made known
then everyone has to  be supportive.

M

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