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Re: [Fwd: Re: ${clientip} ?]

From: Tod Oace
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: ${clientip} ?]
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:00:42 -0700

On Oct 21, 2004, at 23:44, Mark Burgess wrote:

I do not understand the logic of using scp here. copy is still
a better solution in that case. I am not sure why you need a remote
method here at all. If you are collecting a file and simply wwant
to copy it to a hostname dependenent place, but put the hostname
in the destination file?

I think we're talking about two different things here.

I want to collect /etc/syslog.conf from all my systems onto my cfengine servers.
copy: cannot copy *to* a cfservd, right?

Another week it'll be another file. So I want some method to collect up all of some arbitrary file from all my systems in order to find out how I want cfengine to manage all of them. Ideally I would already know (i.e. Bootstrapping an Infrastructure), but I have a lot of history here to deal with yet.

Anyway, that's what I'm trying to do. Copy *up* to a central cfservd. -Tod


 rhost = ( a:b:c )


 /from dest=$(rhost)-copy server=$(rhost)


On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 04:21:48PM -0700, Tod Oace wrote:
On Oct 21, 2004, at 16:12, Ed Brown wrote:

I assume you are talking about 'remote methods'?


There's not much info in the documentation about it yet, but it sure
sounds complex, if not to say convoluted.

Possibly. I don't have any opinion on that yet.

For one, I'm guessing it requires that cfservd be running everywhere.

I don't think so. If I understand it correctly the method call contacts
a cfservd which then runs cfagent, runs the method and then returns
results back to the caller. I just want to collect information on my
cfengine servers which are already running cfservd. I don't think the
method call tries to contact a cfservd on the client system.

I haven't tried the remote stuff yet. I'm just doing local calls while
I develop my module. And right now I'm trying to figure out why this
isn't matching infotype = syslog (to prevent "../filename"):

        valid_infotype = ( Regcmp("^[A-Za-z0-9]*$","${infotype}") )

"^.*$" works but anything I try with "^[...]*$" doesn't. But...this is
a separate issue.

When I've considered data gathering schemes, I always end up back at
the idea of scp-ing info back to the server, or somewhere, an idea
with its own limitations and problems.  I'd be interested in hearing
if you are able to use cfengine for this.

Yeah, I'll probably have to do that if I can't make remote methods
work. It still looks to me like it will, although I'm noticing ReadFile
produced a bunch of nul padding. So I'll have to figure that out too.
But aside from that I was able to copy up a file. Locally anyway. -Tod


On Thu, 2004-10-21 at 16:02, Tod Oace wrote:
(Dang, I don't understand lists that don't set the reply-to field to
to the list.  To me, that's the whole point of a list, the
not to get private answers to questions, unless appropriate for some

Oh, and that case here's my reply to the list:

From: Ed Brown <address@hidden>
Date: October 21, 2004 14:56:55 PDT
To: Tod Oace <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: ${clientip} ?

Where I get stuck right away when considering something like this is
question of how to get information from the client to the server.
backwards to the normal flow of cfengine.  Did you already have a
mechanism for this in mind?

Yeah... A Cfengine method call. There's even an example in the
reference manual passing the first part of /etc/passwd:

search for: ReadFile("/etc/passwd"

So I *think* that takes care of the communication mechanism. I'm
with it now. But I'm also thinking about the step after that.  -Tod


On Thu, 2004-10-21 at 15:41, Tod Oace wrote:
I'm hoping to create a method to collect small bits of information
systems onto my cfengine servers. It seems like this will work fine
I'd also like to prevent systems from being able to clobber each
others' bits of information.

I think what I want is to stash information into files named
.../somedirectory/${clientip}/${infotype} where ${infotype} comes
the client and ${clientip} is defined on the server end. But I'm
to find a variable like ${clientip}. I see forcereplyto but that's
defined by the client.

I would like this in order to collect and analyze files before I put them under central cfengine control. I don't really need information sandboxes for that kind of temporary information, but there is some
other system information I would like to protectection for. Stuff
defined on the systems that I want persistent across system builds.

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