Re: M-TAB already used by KDE

[Fredrik Staxeng]

kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de (Kai Großjohann) writes:

>I've written a little patch for Emacs (which will be in 21.4, whenever
>that comes out) that allows you to tell Emacs to swap Alt and Meta.

The default should be to treat them synonymously. 

>And also, I tell Emacs to swap Alt and Meta.

And what Alt-bindings do you use in Emacs? Anything but iso-transl?

>Then I can use the keys labeled Alt as Meta keys in Emacs.

The proper way would be to have two settings, "Alt is really Super" and
"Meta is really Super". 


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Marcel Schmittfull wrote:
> However, in comp.windows.x.kde nobody answers to my question about how
> to change KDE keybindings. Hence I'd be happy about an solution in
> emacs...
> 
> 6Marcel

Go  to Control Panel->LookNFeel->Keyboard Shortcuts and you can change 
everything you want ...


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marcel-sl@gmx.de (Marcel Schmittfull) writes:

> Yes, I have the "windows" key on my keyboard. What would I have to
> write in my .emacs in order to use the "windows" key in the same
> meaning as the "Alt" key ? That is I want the "alt" key and the
> "windows" key to have both the same meaning in emacs, namely "Meta".

There is no builtin functionality for doing this.  The problem is that
it's a modifier key.  You would have to make your own binding for all
M- bindings.  For example, this makes A-x the same as M-x:

(define-key function-key-map (kbd "A-x") (kbd "M-x"))

You can see that this quickly grows unwieldly, what with all the
characters and function keys and modifiers.

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Martin Schmitz <dosenfleisch@gmx.de> writes:

> I remember that I was really annoyed if I saw that Emacs was listening
> to the Windows-Key as Meta after a fresh Debian Woody install. Then I
> changed something, probably in X11s xmodmap settings, and now KDE tells
> me that mod1 is Alt_L and mod4 is Super_L (KDE seems to know nothing
> about a Meta-Key anymore as I realize while I'm writing this). So,
> everything is fine know. Btw.: this is the default setup on SuSE-Linux.
>
> All the "windowing"-functions of KDE are now bound to Super-<anykey>,
> which is the "Windows-Key".

Really?  I didn't try the Super key, back then.  I only tried Hyper,
which didn't work.

So that's clearly a good solution: have Alt_L/R keysyms for the Alt
keys and Super_L/R keysyms for the `flag' keys.

Wirste öller als 'ne Kau, lernste immer noch datau...
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The emacs manual discusses how to use gud, but doesn't mention how to
add languages to it.  The actual source has a few lines on adding
debuggers, but without many details.  (A new debugger needs a
massage-args function to massage arguments, but what arguments, and
how/why do they need to be massaged?)  Is there any documentation on
adding debuggers?

Thanks,
Jay