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CVS Documentation, info version?


From: Galen Boyer
Subject: CVS Documentation, info version?
Date: 20 Dec 2002 08:14:06 -0600
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Is this available, or maybe some source of the documentation?
I'd like to have this available in Emacs.
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Galen Boyer <galenboyer@hotpop.com> writes:

> Is this available, or maybe some source of the documentation?
> I'd like to have this available in Emacs.

Well, it is installed on my system.  I have in my dir both

* PCL-CVS: (pcl-cvs).   Emacs front-end to CVS.

and

* CVS: (cvs).          Concurrent Versions System

so I would assume that your system should also come with the
respective info files.

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On 20 Dec 2002, galenboyer@hotpop.com wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, chmouel@chmouel.com wrote:
>> 
>> What kind of windows ? it works for me here on w2k.
> 
> - Emacs 21.2, W2K Pro.  CVS server is across the network.

I'm using CVS on that sort of setup - and it's all fine. I think I had
a bit of a problem when emacs was picking up a cygwin version of cvs
or something, but now it's using the cvs that comes with TortoiseCVS,
and all seems well.

Edric.

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Torsten Bronger <bronger@physik.rwth-aachen.de> writes:

>    But when I change this to "latin-9" all characters
>    (even thost that are common in latin-1 and -9)
>    turn into "?".  What am I doing wrong?

Well, with your settings you are editing Latin-1 text but tell Emacs
that your terminal displays Latin-9.  Emacs doesn't know that it some
Latin-1 characters look the same as some Latin-9 characters, so it
doesn't think it can display the Latin-1 chars in the
Latin-9-displaying terminal.

If your language environment would agree with the terminal, then it
would work better.

FWIW, I just set $LC_CTYPE to de_DE@euro and don't need to change
anything else.

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Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> writes:

>   * What would the `/tmp/foo' file be called really?
>     Something like `/usr/share/foo/files'?
>
>   * What would the uninstaller program be called?
>     [Presumably uninstall-PACKAGE]

Note that my /tmp/foo and the uninstaller would have the same
contents.

I suggest that uninstall-PACKAGE be installed to the same directory as
the other binaries from that package.

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"Siegfried Heintze" <siegfried@heintze.com> writes:

> How do I copy this to the clipboard? Whenever I position my self at "begin
> resume", mark the current location with Ctrl+Space, and search for "end
> resume" I loose the beginning mark!

The marks are put on a ring.  So if C-x C-x takes you to the wrong
spot, try C-u C-SPC, then C-x C-x again.

But C-s already sets the mark.  So if you position yourself *after*
"begin resume", then invoke C-s, then end the search with RET, then
C-x C-x should take you back to where you invoked C-s, which is the
right spot.  Right?

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I'd like to reuse a customized variable (which is not autoloaded) from
another package in my code.  Is there a way to do that other than
(require 'otherpackage) ?

(In particular, I was thinking of declaring the same variable myself,
either in my group or in the group of the other package.  What would
be the effect of that, and can it be depended on?)

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>>>>> "David" == David Masterson <dmaster@synopsys.com> writes:

    David> GNU tools generally are not distributed with any package
    David> manager in mind.  They have "make install" and some have
    David> "make uninstall" as the replacement for a package manager.
    David> MS-Windows actually has this issue well handled.  

Most      GNU      softwares      nowadays      have      "./configure
--prefix=/anywhere/you/like/foobar"  so that  the "make  install" will
only   put   files   there.     Uninstalling   is   simply   "rm   -rf
/anywhere/you/like/foobar".



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>>>>> "Tribhuvan" == Tribhuvan  <loka@rcn.com> writes:

    Tribhuvan> Only, this is absent when installing from source.  When
    Tribhuvan> done compiling and doing "make install" according to
    Tribhuvan> your ./configure options, the output of "make install"
    Tribhuvan> has scrolled off conveniently to bit heaven. 

Next, time, try:

        make install 2>&1 >install.log


    Tribhuvan> * The relevant output of 'make install' be
    Tribhuvan> systematically * captured and stored to something like

Yeah!  I agree.  I'd like a "make installed_file_list", which would be
very helpful.  Or a "make uninstall.sh", which automatically generates
a *independent*  shell script for undoing whatever  "make install" has
done.




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>>>>> "Kai" == Kai Großjohann <kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de> writes:

    Kai> You could try "make -n uninstall > /tmp/foo" right after
    Kai> "make install".

This would  not work  if the "make  uninstall" is invoking  some shell
scripts or  programs that are only  found in the source  tree, not the
installed by "make install".

Actually, I'm quite frustrated  that nowadays, "make -n install" won't
even  give you  any clue  of what  will be  done.  It's  just  a dozen
multi-line shell  commands to  invoke a ton  of other things,  often a
"./install-files" script distributed with the source.


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>>>>> "Ajanta" == Ajanta  <ajanta@no.spam> writes:

    >> To uninstall the application, simply "rm -rf /usr/local/foobar"
    >> and you're done!

    Ajanta> Here is the example a poster gave from his system. There
    Ajanta> may or may not be other emacs related named files there,
    Ajanta> these are just the matches on the *name* emacs:

    Ajanta>    % find /usr -name emacs -print 
    Ajanta> /usr/bin/emacs
    Ajanta> /usr/info/emacs
    Ajanta> /usr/libexec/emacs
    Ajanta> /usr/local/bin/emacs
    Ajanta> /usr/share/emacs
    Ajanta> /usr/share/info/emacs

    Ajanta> To duplicate the convenience implied in your suggestion,
    Ajanta> one would have to delete /usr.

Bad practise.   This is by no means  imposed on the user  by Emacs.  A
simple  "./configure  --prefix=/my/installed/apps/emacs"  followed  by
"make" and then "su -" and make install" would do the things properly.



    Ajanta> What is needed:

    Ajanta> (1) To change the culture, so that every program comes
    Ajanta> with a safe and complete uninstall option.

Most unix programs are already exhibiting this behaviour.


    Ajanta> (2) To empower the user, so he/she can easily discover
    Ajanta> what a particular file on his/her computer is for, and
    Ajanta> where are all the files related to the package xyz. 

        rpm -qf /etc/someprogrc 
would reveal it, for instance.


    Ajanta> I haven't come across many programs with long descriptive
    Ajanta> file names.  However, I'll avoid this direction because I
    Ajanta> view it as less relevant.  I want precise and reliable
    Ajanta> tools to know what a file was for. I don't want to guess
    Ajanta> such things from names.

Most Linux distros  have a package management tool  that does what you
want.  Only the minimalistic ones (e.g. the single-floppy flavours) do
not.


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>>>>> "David" == David Masterson <dmaster@synopsys.com> writes:

    David> 2. To allow for source removal, "make install" should
    David> install an uninstaller (like this: "make -n uninstall >
    David> uninstaller; install uninstaller").

Which  GNU software doesn't  allow you  to "rm  -rf" the  whole source
directory after the  "make install"?  I mean, which  will not function
after this?



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Hello,

I'm looking for a way to manipulate trees of lisp objects and save those to
a file so that I can 'load' them again later.
I'm wondering whether ewoc.el could be extended or used as a stepping stone
to do this.

A tree's node can have zero, one or more children.
A tree's node can have zero, one or more parents.
A tree has a starting node, which usually has no parents.
Nodes without children are leaves.
There can be circular routes, i.e. links from a node back to the starting
node.

Instead of 'left', a tree would have 'parents' (defined as a list of
nodes).
Instead of 'right', a tree would have 'children' (defined as a list of
nodes).

I've drafted below the correspondence I envisage.

Can someone tell whether this makes sense?
Does someone know whether this has already been implemented?
Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance for any feedback provided.
Eric

;;   collection ==>  ewoc        ==> tree
;;   tin        ==>  ewoc--node  ==> tree_node
;;   cookie     ==>  data or element or elem ==> node_content

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