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Re: line-move-visual
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Joseph Brenner |
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Re: line-move-visual |
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Wed, 08 Dec 2010 15:14:09 -0000 |
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David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:
> Joseph Brenner <doom@kzsu.stanford.edu> writes:
>> If we really can't convince the developers that they need to respect
>> backwards compatibility, an actual solution to the problem might
>> be something like creating a switch that needs to be flipped on to
>> get the new whizzy behavior, something like:
>>
>> (setq modernize-emacs t)
>>
>> You then recommend that the default ~/.emacs for *new* users should
>> include that line.
>
> That means that new users live in a separate universe where they can't
> expect older users to be able to help them with their setup and usage
> problems. Because the older users don't even have a clue about what new
> users might be working with.
Yes, and if I'd thought about that issue at all, I might've said
something like:
Doing something like this would be far better than the current
practices, though it's obviously not perfect. Problems include:
o A third-party developer may be suprised by the need to ask
users not to flip on "modernize-emacs", and may have to
write code to shut it off and live with some user confusion
when the "modernized" behavior goes away temporarily.
o It's effectively a project fork that at the very least
complicates documentation and testing.
> "In your face" is a strategy where people actually get to see things
> and make a conscious decision about keeping or leaving them.
They can also make a conscious decision about dropping an unstable piece
of software.
- Re: line-move-visual, (continued)
- Re: line-move-visual, Uday S Reddy, 2010/12/08
- Re: line-move-visual, Tim X, 2010/12/08
- Re: line-move-visual, Uday S Reddy, 2010/12/08
- Re: line-move-visual, Tim X, 2010/12/08
- Re: line-move-visual, Uday S Reddy, 2010/12/08
- Re: line-move-visual, Tim X, 2010/12/08
- Re: line-move-visual, Tim X, 2010/12/08
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- Re: line-move-visual, Joseph Brenner, 2010/12/08
- Re: line-move-visual, Helmut Eller, 2010/12/08
- Re: line-move-visual, David Kastrup, 2010/12/08
- Re: line-move-visual,
Joseph Brenner <=
- Re: line-move-visual, w_a_x_man, 2010/12/08
- Re: line-move-visual, Wojciech Meyer, 2010/12/09
- Re: line-move-visual, Mark Crispin, 2010/12/09
- Re: line-move-visual, Alan Mackenzie, 2010/12/08
- Re: line-move-visual, Jim Diamond, 2010/12/08
- Re: line-move-visual, Uday S Reddy, 2010/12/08
- Re: line-move-visual, Alan Mackenzie, 2010/12/08
- Re: line-move-visual, Uday S Reddy, 2010/12/08
- Re: line-move-visual, Tim X, 2010/12/08
- Re: line-move-visual, Stefan Monnier, 2010/12/08