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RE: Emacs freezes every now and then on my windows 7 pc


From: Ludwig, Mark
Subject: RE: Emacs freezes every now and then on my windows 7 pc
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 14:58:44 +0000

> From: Óscar Fuentes
> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 9:39 AM
> To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Emacs freezes every now and then on my windows 7 pc
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> >> And the matter has nothing to do with whether someone builds Emacs
> >> personally or uses a binary built by someone else.  Who builds Emacs
> >> is irrelevant here.
> >
> > It is relevant, because once a fix is committed, people who build
> > themselves can rebuild and have a stable binary.
> 
> ... and more relevant to the development process: people can test and
> report back about the proposed fix, specifically.

Right!  This is the "help" list, not the "devel" list.  As a developer (other 
software, not Emacs), I expect people who are picking up any recent development 
version of my software to be other developers, able to deal with the potential 
for instability.  Only after some stabilization and proper testing would I 
release anything to a user community that is generally unprepared for this 
level of instability.  If a user "pulls" the development version before it's 
ready, s/he gets what s/he deserves.  (To be clear, I am not on the devel list, 
so have no idea what expectations have been set among the development community 
about non-developers pulling versions and using them.)

To the point about some unnamed developer destabilizing the source, our 
industry overall has a very poor record of educating and training new people.  
It's generally "baptism by fire" or "jumping in the deep end."  In my office, 
if we have someone who's drowning, we assign an experienced person to do some 
direct mentoring to get the new person on the straight-and-narrow.  We also 
have rigorous code reviews, so we usually catch the drowning people at that 
point.  There seems not to be effective code review here.  This is all 
volunteers, after all; I imagine most volunteers just want to write their own 
code, and don't want to deal with others' code....

Cheers,
Mark




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