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Re: Why aren't `find`, `find-if`, `remove-if` part of Emacs Lisp?
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Stefan Monnier |
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Re: Why aren't `find`, `find-if`, `remove-if` part of Emacs Lisp? |
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Wed, 18 Jun 2014 10:36:37 -0400 |
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>>>>> Emacs Lisp is a great Lisp dialect, but I miss `find`, `find-if`,
>>>>> `remove-if`, etc. iteration functions a lot. Sure, I can require cl-lib
>>>>> or use dash, but I'm wondering why these functions are not part of the
>>>>> base language?
>>>> Not sure what you mean. Most languages I know provide list operations
>>>> via libraries. Why should Elisp be different?
>>> What I mean is that Elisp do not have `remove-if`
>> Of course it does, tho it calls it `cl-remove-if'.
> Yes, but what I meant was that there is no filtering function in Elisp
> itself (cl-remove-if is part of cl-lib).
And as I said, it's generally considered normal that list manipulation
functions (such as remove-if) are not part of the core language but are
instead provided via libraries (such as `cl-lib').
> But Barry's answer explains it. Now I'm wondering if it would make sense
> to have such functions in Elisp itself?
So, fundamentally, it's just the (require cl-lib) that annoys you?
Stefan
- Why aren't `find`, `find-if`, `remove-if` part of Emacs Lisp?, Nicolas Petton, 2014/06/17
- Re: Why aren't `find`, `find-if`, `remove-if` part of Emacs Lisp?, Stefan Monnier, 2014/06/17
- Re: Why aren't `find`, `find-if`, `remove-if` part of Emacs Lisp?, Nicolas Petton, 2014/06/17
- RE: Why aren't `find`, `find-if`, `remove-if` part of Emacs Lisp?, Doug Lewan, 2014/06/17
- Re: Why aren't `find`, `find-if`, `remove-if` part of Emacs Lisp?, Nicolas Petton, 2014/06/17
- RE: Why aren't `find`, `find-if`, `remove-if` part of Emacs Lisp?, Doug Lewan, 2014/06/17
- Re: Why aren't `find`, `find-if`, `remove-if` part of Emacs Lisp?, Stefan Monnier, 2014/06/17
- Re: Why aren't `find`, `find-if`, `remove-if` part of Emacs Lisp?, Nicolas Petton, 2014/06/18
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- Re: Why aren't `find`, `find-if`, `remove-if` part of Emacs Lisp?,
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- Re: Why aren't `find`, `find-if`, `remove-if` part of Emacs Lisp?, Barry Margolin, 2014/06/18
- Re: Why aren't `find`, `find-if`, `remove-if` part of Emacs Lisp?, Damien Cassou, 2014/06/18
- Re: Why aren't `find`, `find-if`, `remove-if` part of Emacs Lisp?, Phillip Lord, 2014/06/18
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- Re: Why aren't `find`, `find-if`, `remove-if` part of Emacs Lisp?, Christoph Wedler, 2014/06/24
- Re: Why aren't `find`, `find-if`, `remove-if` part of Emacs Lisp?, Barry Margolin, 2014/06/24
- Re: Why aren't `find`, `find-if`, `remove-if` part of Emacs Lisp?, Stefan Monnier, 2014/06/24
- Re: Why aren't `find`, `find-if`, `remove-if` part of Emacs Lisp?, Leo Liu, 2014/06/25
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- Re: Why aren't `find`, `find-if`, `remove-if` part of Emacs Lisp?, Stefan Monnier, 2014/06/25
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- Re: Why aren't `find`, `find-if`, `remove-if` part of Emacs Lisp?, Christoph Wedler, 2014/06/25
- Re: Why aren't `find`, `find-if`, `remove-if` part of Emacs Lisp?, Stefan Monnier, 2014/06/25