Re: Elisp addiction not as bad in light of Linux forkoholism

[Emanuel Berg]

Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@fastmail.fm> writes:

>> I used to think if I just had Emacs and a shell to
>> hammer commands the OS wouldn't matter. That was
>> when I was young and elastic. Now I'm a bit older
>> and I only acknowledge that principle in principle.
>> Actually I'm a bit cut in stone. But at least I
>> know that stone works (almost) no matter.
>
> Just interesting, what OS specifics you are sticking
> to?

I use Debian which is very common among people like
me. I don't know if we are the same from day one or
using the same software made us the same. I think I
could use any Unix-like system though. I consider
Linux do be Unix -- and GNU is obviously not UNIX only
as a clever irony.

As I see it, the thing with writing code is that you
should be able to do it all the time, at every place
of your system.

For example, I can deep into having the time displayed
in a certain way in the shell:

long-date () {
        start_of_month=`date +"%Y%m01"`
        days_of_month=`date -d "$start_of_month + 1 month - 1 day" | cut -d\  
-f3`
        full_date="  %b %d %H:%M - %A: week %V - month %m (of $days_of_month 
days) - %Y"
        tput setaf 3
        /bin/date +$full_date
        tput sgr0
}

Not to mention all Emacs hacking that is just a
bottomless pit, which is a huge part why I love the
software (and a huge part why it is so good).

I don't doubt Windows programmers can be very good as
programmers but they are always working on their big
projects to make money or do big things. But those big
projects are all so distant, and besides the
programmers might not even enjoy those projects
themselves.

I want to do all small things, it is relaxing to do
and when done I enjoy it immediately, and ever since.
The way I perceive Windows programmers working on
their would-be-Quake-killer is that they aren't as
free as us Unixers, they are in the "cage" of the OS,
instead of as fish in the water.

The interface is also a big part in making "small
things, every thing" programming possible because if it
is all just text, and you like it that way, that
speeds up development a hundred times.

-- 
underground experts united