Re: if vs. when vs. and: style question

[Rusi]

On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 8:07:43 PM UTC+5:30, Pascal J. Bourguignon wrote:
> Rusi writes:
> 
> > On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 7:57:07 AM UTC+5:30, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> >> Richard Wordingham writes:
> >> 
> >> > One of the issues with using the full set of Unicode
> >> > characters is that many are easily misread when
> >> > there are no constraints. Many Greek capitals look
> >> > just like Roman capitals, and Latin 'o', Greek 'ο'
> >> > and Cyrillic 'о' may be indistinguishable. This is
> >> > not a good idea for writing code.
> >> 
> >> Good point. In addition, there are many Unicode chars
> >> that aren't human language chars but instead are to be
> >> used in geometric figures, in math and otherwise
> >> scientific/engineering notation, and so on - and those
> >> also collide (or almost so) with for example the
> >> Latin 'o' and probably other letters as well.
> >
> > Of course — Richard does use the phrase "FULL set of Unicode characters"
> >
> > Currently we see programming languages ALREADY SUPPORTING large swathes of 
> > the
> > 1 million chars for identifier-chars -- mostly the 'Letter' and perhaps
> > the 'number/digit' categories.
> 
> Quick, without looking it up, is: ➒ a digit? a letter? something else?
> What about Ⅸ or ๙? Are they digits or letters?

I guess 1st is
2nd dunno
3rd cant even read :-)

... all of proves what I am saying (as you concede below)

> 
> > So there are two somewhat opposite points:
> > 1. Supporting the Babel of human languages in programming identifiers is
> > probably a mistake.  In any case if a language must go that way, the choice 
> > of
> > html seems more sane: active opt-in with (something like) a charset 
> > declaration
> > rather than have the whole truckload thrown at someone unsuspecting.
> > So if a А (cyrillic) and the usual A got mixed up, at the least you asked 
> > for it!!
> 
> Yes, a mandatory declarations could solve some problems.

Yes…  We need
- Less internationalization
- More universalization

My points in

http://blog.languager.org/2015/01/unicode-and-universe.html
http://blog.languager.org/2015/02/universal-unicode.html

1st is the general idea,
2nd is examples of how more the math more is the good; though it gives
some ideas of other areas of universalization