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Re: why are there [v e c t o r s] in Lisp?
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Barry Margolin |
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Re: why are there [v e c t o r s] in Lisp? |
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Sat, 17 Oct 2015 01:53:04 -0400 |
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In article <mailman.491.1445056308.7904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>,
Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se> wrote:
> "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com>
> writes:
>
> >> Why the syntax is there at all is to provide fast
> >> (faster) access to the vector data type which has
> >> other time and space properties than do lists.
> >
> > ABSOLUTELY NOT.
> >
> > For example, in C++ you have vectors and lists, but
> > you don't have any literal syntax for them.
> >
> > You can have fast and slow data structures without
> > having any literal syntax for it.
> >
> > Why do you keep confusing the two concepts?
>
> The original question was why there is a special
> syntax for vectors, even as lists are perfectly fitted
> to be vectors.
>
> The question was not why there are lists AND vectors.
> But that issue is also interesting so that discussion
> wasn't wasted on anyone who read it (perhaps).
>
> As for the syntax, the "literal"
>
> [1 2 3]
>
> is a faster and more readable way than
>
> (vector 1 2 3)
>
> to tell the computer when it should use what, because
> the computer isn't advanced enough to figure this out
> on it own.
Which is similar to the reason why we have literal lists:
'(1 2 3)
when you could just use
(list 1 2 3)
Literals are just a convenience feature. When arrays were added to
MacLisp, they didn't have a literal syntax. Common Lisp added the syntax
#(1 2 3) for them (and a more general syntax for multi-dimensional
arrays). Common Lisp also added a syntax for structure literals.
--
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
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- Re: why are there [v e c t o r s] in Lisp?, (continued)
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- Re: why are there [v e c t o r s] in Lisp?, Pascal J. Bourguignon, 2015/10/16
- Re: why are there [v e c t o r s] in Lisp?, Random832, 2015/10/16
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- Re: why are there [v e c t o r s] in Lisp?, Pascal J. Bourguignon, 2015/10/16
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- Re: why are there [v e c t o r s] in Lisp?, Pascal J. Bourguignon, 2015/10/15
- Re: why are there [v e c t o r s] in Lisp?, Emanuel Berg, 2015/10/16
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- Re: why are there [v e c t o r s] in Lisp?, Pascal J. Bourguignon, 2015/10/16
- Re: why are there [v e c t o r s] in Lisp?, Emanuel Berg, 2015/10/17
- Re: why are there [v e c t o r s] in Lisp?, Random832, 2015/10/17
- Re: why are there [v e c t o r s] in Lisp?, Emanuel Berg, 2015/10/17
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- Re: why are there [v e c t o r s] in Lisp?, Barry Margolin, 2015/10/17
- Re: why are there [v e c t o r s] in Lisp?, Emanuel Berg, 2015/10/17
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- Re: why are there [v e c t o r s] in Lisp?, Pascal J. Bourguignon, 2015/10/17
- Re: why are there [v e c t o r s] in Lisp?, Emanuel Berg, 2015/10/17
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- Re: why are there [v e c t o r s] in Lisp?, Pascal J. Bourguignon, 2015/10/17
- Re: why are there [v e c t o r s] in Lisp?, Emanuel Berg, 2015/10/18
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- Re: why are there [v e c t o r s] in Lisp?, Pascal J. Bourguignon, 2015/10/18
- Re: why are there [v e c t o r s] in Lisp?, Emanuel Berg, 2015/10/18
- Re: why are there [v e c t o r s] in Lisp?, Robert Thorpe, 2015/10/18
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- Re: why are there [v e c t o r s] in Lisp?, Barry Margolin, 2015/10/18