Re: General advice beyond Org

[edgar]

> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 16:44:39 -1000
> From: Bob Newell <bobnewell@bobnewell.net>
> Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: [O] General advice beyond Org
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> If your evaluation (and you need to do a careful evaluation of the
> merits and demerits of both your approach and her approach) is that
> it's better to go with what your adviser asks, then you should do so.
> No, I wouldn't like it either. But I don't think (unlike RMS, perhaps)
> that there are show-stopping moral or ethical issues here.
>
> If your evaluation truly tells you that your way is best, then you
> need to come up with a plan of action, with alternatives. I'd suggest
> that a good enough evaluation could possibly sway your adviser.
>
> Best of luck to you.

Thank you, Bob (I'm sorry for not knowing any Hawaiian other than 
aloha). I truly believe that my way is best (she likes track changes, 
but I am almost sure that has never tried Git, subversion, mercurial or 
anything like that). On the other hand, I really think that she is still 
not going to like it if I try to persuade her (I think that there was a 
previous student trying to use LaTeX, for instance, and she really 
dislikes it for some reason; I don't really know).

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> Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 09:32:11 +0200
> From: <tomas@tuxteam.de>
> To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: [O] General advice beyond Org
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> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 04:44:39PM -1000, Bob Newell wrote:
> > Aloha,
> >
> > Sometimes you need to pick your battles.
>
> While I'd tend to agree with Bob that you might have to choose
> a "flexible response", bear in mind that your instructor has
> already signalled that she's not willing to cater to your
> standpoint.

Indeed. That is quite clear.

> If you want to change your environment, and you want, because
> you'll have to live in it, try to network, to reach out to
> others in your position. Being in academia, you'll interact
> with many co-researchers in other institutions. Make a habit
> of carefully enquiring about their environment.

I have only found one user of Emacs so far (in a representative group of 
~50), an old-time Professor who uses Wundoe$ (the unoperating system; I 
hope that you like my jokes :D ). I will keep doing it.

> Cheers & good luck

Thanks, I'll need it.


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> Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 21:52:29 -0400
> From: "Peter Neilson" <neilson@windstream.net>
> To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, edgar@openmail.cc
> Subject: Re: [O] General advice beyond Org
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> What is your field? In some areas of research the foremost software 
> tools
> have been developed on a MS platform and there is no escape unless you 
> go
> and develop your own tools.

Are you aware of a place where they would allow me to do this? I have no 
problem with that.


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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 09:12:42 +0200 (CEST)
> From: "S. Champailler" <schampaillerspam@skynet.be>
> To: edgar@openmail.cc, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: General advice beyond Org
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> Be aware that free software is politcally loaded. It's just not a
> matter of having the right or best tools, it' sometimes a question of
> ideal, that is something that is *very* hard to negociate about...

Thanks, Stefan. I already sent you an answer. I will wait for the digest 
next time.

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Thanks to everyone!

The count goes like this (so that everyone knows that I am listening, 
the count is by far the least important):
- Yield partially (2) :: You will have to work with proprietary software 
in some way, but not always.
- There is no escape (1) :: You will have to work with proprietary 
software
- Find a different environment (1) :: There is a place, you need to find 
it.
- I know a place (0) :: I know XXX group or XXX person which only uses 
free software

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