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Re: Ctrl-[ ?
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tomas |
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Re: Ctrl-[ ? |
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Sat, 8 Jun 2019 22:28:31 +0200 |
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On Sat, Jun 08, 2019 at 09:40:07PM +0200, Óscar Fuentes wrote:
> <tomas@tuxteam.de> writes:
>
> > On Sat, Jun 08, 2019 at 04:30:14PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
[...]
> > Well said. The only one stepping forward with some code was Stefan,
> > and personally, I find it a bit discouraging
>
> What I find discouraging is this phrase on the above quoted message:
>
> >> ... Suffices it to say that several times during the recent years
> >> when we needed to make seemingly-simple changes and fixes in that
> >> code, no one had the courage to approve such changes.
>
> I'm sure that that is not Eli's intention, but encouraging it is not.
It's expected. Big software organisms are like that. Try hacking
on Mozilla, or Eclipse, or...
I think Emacs fares quite well compared to that, more so given its
age.
> > that folks just keep
> > saying what "Emacs Should Do" without investing much effort into
> > understanding what's there and what other users need/want.
>
> Care to explain how the proposed change would take away from you?
I think I explained that twice. Won't repeat.
> > Software development is a collective effort, and it takes listening
> > as well as talking, I think.
>
> I listened as hard as I can, and still don't understand why you react
> this way to this issue, when several times we explicitly said that
> nothing would change on the default behavior.
Sorry if I hurt you in any way.
Cheers
-- tomás
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- Re: Ctrl-[ ?, (continued)
- Re: Ctrl-[ ?, Eli Zaretskii, 2019/06/08
- Re: Ctrl-[ ?, Jean-Christophe Helary, 2019/06/08
- Re: Ctrl-[ ?, Eli Zaretskii, 2019/06/09
- Re: Ctrl-[ ?, Jean-Christophe Helary, 2019/06/09
- Re: Ctrl-[ ?, tomas, 2019/06/08
- Re: Ctrl-[ ?, Óscar Fuentes, 2019/06/08
- Re: Ctrl-[ ?, Eli Zaretskii, 2019/06/08
- Re: Ctrl-[ ?,
tomas <=
- Re: Ctrl-[ ?, Francis Belliveau, 2019/06/08
- Re: Ctrl-[ ?, Óscar Fuentes, 2019/06/08
- Re: Ctrl-[ ?, Stefan Monnier, 2019/06/08
- Re: Ctrl-[ ?, Óscar Fuentes, 2019/06/08
- Re: Ctrl-[ ?, Stefan Monnier, 2019/06/18
- Re: Ctrl-[ ?, Francis Belliveau, 2019/06/11
- Re: Ctrl-[ ?, Stefan Monnier, 2019/06/14
- [offtopic] Re: Ctrl-[ ?, Van L, 2019/06/14
- Re: [offtopic] Re: Ctrl-[ ?, tomas, 2019/06/14
- Re: [offtopic] Re: Ctrl-[ ?, Van L, 2019/06/15