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Re: [help-gnutrition] Problem accessing Help-GNUtrition archives


From: Jason Self
Subject: Re: [help-gnutrition] Problem accessing Help-GNUtrition archives
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 21:13:05 -0800

Miquel Caballé i Grau wrote:
> Oh, it's true, now I can access and read my question and your answer
> in the help archives. I feel like a kind of pioneer ;-) 
>
> I'm very interested in this software because I am studying a short
> amateur nutrition course and I want to make personal menus. The
> teacher of this course gave us a pirate copy of a student version of a
> Windows software. It works but the database is quite small. Then I
> found GNUtrition and I was astonished because it's Linux, free, libre
> and with a huge database. 
> 
> As I said before, I can't save recipes and Nutrient Goals (or I can't
> access it in later sessions). This morning I thought that it was a
> problem with MySQL client so my plan is to uninstall everything and
> start again. On the other hand, sometimes the software consumes all my
> processor and then gets saturated (for example when I try to compute
> nutrients). Do you have any idea how to fix these problems?

It would be helpful if you could share information on your specific
setup to see if I can duplicate it. :)

Thanks for the feedback -- I'll keep it in mind for the next version.

:)
> 
> On the other hand I'm glad to hear that you are open to ideas because
> I have some. The majority of them are little things but maybe you like
> some of them. Sorry for the disorder of the points:
> 
> 1.- I thought that it would be a good setting's item to allow the swap
> between dot and comma in decimals, for the non-english speaking users.
> I don't know if this is easy to do. Maybe an easier option is to
> change the number of decimals from 3 to 2 in all the menus, to avoid
> the possible confusion between kilos and milis.
> 
> Dot and comma uses in the World, from Spanish Wikipedia:
> DecimalSeparator.png
> 
>      dot
>      comma
>      momayyez (arabic high comma)
>      unknown
> 
> 
> 2.- In the Food part the energy is expressed in kCal and kJ. I think
> it would be more consistent to put the same title, "Energy", in both
> sides and change only the unit in brackets. Furthermore the units are
> "incorrectly" expressed because it is kCal (not kcal) and kJ (not kj).
> 
> 3.- It would be nice for a user to be able to edit the ingredients of
> a food recipe doing a double click on a row: change the food, the
> amount and the measure. I think it's faster and more intuitive. It is
> applicable in the Plan par, too.
> 
> 4.- I think it isn't consistent to have two slightly different
> procedures of entering data in the same software: in the Food part you
> look for a food and later you can write the amount and measures in the
> main window; but in the Recipe and Plan parts you add a food searching
> it and you have to put the amount and measures in the same pop-up
> window. I'm not sure which method is faster or more intuitive but if
> there are two ways it's easy to get warning messages (of amount and
> measure lack).
> 
> 5.- In the Food part, I think that it would be useful if the nutrient
> amounts get self updated when the amount of food is changed. Another
> option is to allow the enter key use.
> 
> 6.- In the Food part, maybe it would be useful to add one chart
> (sector or bars) with principal nutrients (protein %, fat %,
> carbohydrate %) distribution. This is a copied idea from the nutrition
> Windows software the teacher gave me. Maybe showing two bar charts,
> side by side, one with the distribution of the recipe or food, and the
> other with the ideal distribution (nutrient goals).
> 
> 7.- One crazy idea is to make a part to combine randomly and
> automatically the several recipes of the Recipe part, respecting the
> categories (breakfast, lunch, dinner...). The intention is to get a
> (big) table with random day menus and its total nutrients (maybe only
> the macro-nutrients), energy and % of daily goals. Then the user will
> be able to select the best theoretical menus, and could save time by
> not having to combine them manually. The total of combinations could
> be limited to avoid a big waiting time or to saturate the computer.
> 
> 8.- I think that, in the Recipe part, the "Nutrition Goals" icon and
> the "Display nutrition totals" icon are too similar, and it's easy to
> get confused. The "Nutrient goals" concept is written in different
> ways in the different parts of the software: Settings > Nutrient Goal;
> Recipe icon > Nutrition goals; Food icon > Nutritien goal. On the
> other hand, in the Food part, the "Nutrient Goals" (written Nutritien
> goal) has a different icon (in my mind it is associated to
> "Settings"). There is a similar problem with "Display recipe nutrient
> totals" button of the Recipe part, called "Compute nutritient
> composition" in the Plan part, and called "Compute nutrient
> composition" in the Food part. Personally my choise of wording would
> be "Compute" rather than "Display". 
> 
> 9.- Somewhere I read that GNUtrition can only calculate foods that are
> in it's database but, what about making a part to allow the user enter
> the nutrients amounts of a particular commercial food? I'm not sure
> whether this is a good idea, but it is an idea.
> 
> 10.- What about an icon for GNUtrition?
> 
> 11.- The order of the icons in the Recipe part and Plan part are
> different (delete and edit). In the Plan part maybe it would be more
> intuitive if there was an Open icon (as it is in the Recipe part) in
> addition of the pop-up calendar on the right side. A bug: if you
> pop-up the calendar and then you change the active window (to another
> app) the calendar keeps popped-up, visible and active.
> 
> 12.- Is it possible and easy to display separately vegetable protein
> and animal protein?
> 
> 13.- Maybe it would be useful to add a Notes window in addition of the
> Recipe instructions. My idea is to allow for personal annotations
> about personal feelings and instructions, different of the
> instructions of the dish. This would be non-public information.
> 
> 14.- What about making GNUtrition compatible with Gourmet Recipe
> Manager? It looks very powerful and maybe it can be a great
> complement, in both directions.
> 
> 15.- How about making the food search pop-up window maximizable with a
> double click on the title bar of the window?
> 
> 16.- In the Plan part, I think it's more correct to say "Servings"
> than "Amount", and in the other hand I don't know if it makes sense to
> have "Measures" in this table, because it is a list of recipes
> (probably with several measures of several ingredients).
> 
> 
> I'm sure that I will have more ideas and questions when I achieve to
> run the software properly.
> 
> I have some questions:
> 
> - Does the GNUtrition Help work? I can access to the About but not to
> the Contents, and I don't know if it's related with my personal
> software problems.
> 
> - In the .tar files there is a Debian folder but there is not a .deb
> packet inside, or outside. I wasn't able to find any .deb in the FSF
> database. Is it in any repository?
> 
> - And an indiscreet question: what is the relation between GNUtrition
> and Nut-nutrition? Why develop two similar softwares under the same
> Operative System and licensing?
> 
> 
> If it makes sense I can do the translation of the software to Spanish
> and Catalan (not the entire USDA database, of course). I am a beginner
> in the Linux world (Ubuntu user) and I have no idea of Python, but I
> know some things of C programming. I don't have a lot of free time but
> maybe I can help to improve this project.
> 
> 
> I hope that my mail will not overwhelm or offend you.
> Thanks for your attention.
> 

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