Re: Woctave-another gui front end

[José Luis García Pallero]

2012/12/5 Sergei Steshenko <address@hidden>:
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>> From: Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <address@hidden>
>> To: Nicholas Jankowski <address@hidden>
>> Cc: Sergei Steshenko <address@hidden>; "address@hidden" <address@hidden>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 3:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: Woctave-another gui front end
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>> On 4 December 2012 19:38, Nicholas Jankowski <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>  That said, a GUI is a barrier to adoption. if for no other reason
>>>  than people will say, "no gui?" and move on.
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>> The people who want a GUI do not know any other way to interact with a
>> programming environment. They typically know no other programming
>> language than Matlab, so they have never tried to learn a text editor
>> or environment that you can use to program elsewhere. They view typing
>> commands into a command line as black magic. They furthermore barely
>> even think of Matlab as a programming language at all.
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>> It is futile to try to convince the people who want a GUI that they
>> don't need one. They think they're too dumb to learn another way and
>> they view non-GUI work as impossible black magic only the most expert
>> programmers can achieve.
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>> - Jordi G. H.
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> It makes no sense to service needs of such people. Scientific calculations 
> require certain skill level; inability to learn a text editor and to work 
> with a terminal emulator casts grave doubts the skill level is good enough.

I do not agree with this. At a first level at the University I think
its important to have a gui in order to facilitate the use of Octave.
Think in people who now are not scientists but can be in a few years.
If octave gui facilitates that scientists make plots with octave
instead of matlab or ¡excel!, then octave gui is a very good thing

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> A script can be written which starts, say, Notepad++ and the window titles 
> will be "Enter your source here, Enter Octave commands here", etc.
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> Regards,
>   Sergei.
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